The Politics of the Geithner Plan
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has announced his long awaited bank rescue plan and the early reviews are less than glowing. No one seems to like it. [update: well, apparently Wall Street like the plan. Not sure if that's good or bad.]
Under normal circumstances, I would take that as a sign that the plan is a pretty bad one. But these are not normal circumstances. The cacophony of criticism being leveled at the plan is somewhat deceptive in that much of it (i.e. nearly all of it coming from the right) is just Malkin-esque know-nothingism. The "tea party" crowd doesn't have any idea how to solve the financial crisis, and they don't really care either. They are either in serious denial about the magnitude of the problem or they realize that no one is listening to them anyway, so they might as well just be outraged by everything and let the adults make the hard decisions.
Over at the adult table, the primary criticism of the Geithner plan seems to be that it is unlikely to do enough to fix the problem, that nationalization of the banks is the only real solution we have left. Paul Krugman is firmly in this camp, as are a number of other intelligent economists with good track records on these issues. My sense from reading Krugman's column and various posts about the Geithner plan, however, is that his primary concern is that if we adopt the Geithner plan--which he sees as unlikely to work--it will somehow foreclose any chance of pursuing a Swedish style nationalization plan down the road ("by the time Mr. Obama realizes that he needs to change course, his political capital may be gone"). In other words, we only get one shot at this, so we better do it right.
I wouldn't for a second presume to take issue with Krugman's economic analysis (I'm just a lawyer), but to the extent his opinion is based on his assessment of the current political climate, I think he's probably wrong. Saving the financial system isn't like enacting health care reform. With something like health care, you may only get one shot. If the public sours on your idea, they have the status quo to fall back on and the odds are that nothing will get passed. But if the Geithner plan doesn't work, the financial system is still going to need rescuing and nobody is going to be content to do nothing. Obama would likely pay a price politically, but everyone would still be clamoring for him to do whatever it takes to save the economy. And nationalization would be the obvious next option.
Which brings me to the second flaw I see in Krugman's analysis. Implicit in his criticism is the notion that nationalization (i.e. the Swedish model) is currently a politically viable option. I'm not at all sure that's the case. Presumably Congress's authorization would be required to embark on such an endeavor, and it's hard to see how such a proposal would get through the Senate. It may be that, as a political matter, we need to try something along the lines of the Geithner plan before we take the next step.
So what I'd be interested in seeing from Krugman and others is some analysis of what, from an economic perspective, we're risking by trying the Geithner approach first. In other words, putting aside your assessment of the country's political will, is there anything about the Geithner plan that would foreclose the possibility of successfully executing a Swedish-style nationalization down the road? Or put yet another way, from an economic perspective, what is the opportunity cost of pursuing the Geithner plan? Does nationalize have to happen right now in order to work?
UPDATE: Kevin Drum and I seem to be on the same page on this one.
UPDATE II: Along the same lines, one of the political problems that proponents of nationalization seem to be underestimating is how difficult it would be for the Obama administration to lobby hard for a nationalization bill without sending the financial system into chaos. Those who argue for nationalization do so by pointing out how bad the current situation is. They argue that many of our banks are in much worse shape than they are letting on, that they are essentially "zombie banks" that are massively insolvent if their assets are properly valued. That may well be true, but it's one thing for Paul Krugman to say that and quite another for President Obama and the Treasury Secretary to say that. The Obama administration has to be concerned that if they make the arguments necessary to win the public debate on a proposed nationalization bill, they could erode whatever public confidence still remains in the banking system, thereby exacerbating the problem and making it look as if they triggered it. This is always the Catch 22 with problems like these. If you are brutally honest in your diagnosis of the problem, you can actually make the problem much worse.
It seems to me that trying to "sell" Congress on a nationalization plan, at least without first attempting all other reasonable options, is an inherently risky proposition. It could trigger panic. And even if that panic was inevitable, there's a real risk that you end up getting blamed for the consequences. That would truly erode your political capital. You might get your nationalization bill, but forget about anything else.
Under normal circumstances, I would take that as a sign that the plan is a pretty bad one. But these are not normal circumstances. The cacophony of criticism being leveled at the plan is somewhat deceptive in that much of it (i.e. nearly all of it coming from the right) is just Malkin-esque know-nothingism. The "tea party" crowd doesn't have any idea how to solve the financial crisis, and they don't really care either. They are either in serious denial about the magnitude of the problem or they realize that no one is listening to them anyway, so they might as well just be outraged by everything and let the adults make the hard decisions.
Over at the adult table, the primary criticism of the Geithner plan seems to be that it is unlikely to do enough to fix the problem, that nationalization of the banks is the only real solution we have left. Paul Krugman is firmly in this camp, as are a number of other intelligent economists with good track records on these issues. My sense from reading Krugman's column and various posts about the Geithner plan, however, is that his primary concern is that if we adopt the Geithner plan--which he sees as unlikely to work--it will somehow foreclose any chance of pursuing a Swedish style nationalization plan down the road ("by the time Mr. Obama realizes that he needs to change course, his political capital may be gone"). In other words, we only get one shot at this, so we better do it right.
I wouldn't for a second presume to take issue with Krugman's economic analysis (I'm just a lawyer), but to the extent his opinion is based on his assessment of the current political climate, I think he's probably wrong. Saving the financial system isn't like enacting health care reform. With something like health care, you may only get one shot. If the public sours on your idea, they have the status quo to fall back on and the odds are that nothing will get passed. But if the Geithner plan doesn't work, the financial system is still going to need rescuing and nobody is going to be content to do nothing. Obama would likely pay a price politically, but everyone would still be clamoring for him to do whatever it takes to save the economy. And nationalization would be the obvious next option.
Which brings me to the second flaw I see in Krugman's analysis. Implicit in his criticism is the notion that nationalization (i.e. the Swedish model) is currently a politically viable option. I'm not at all sure that's the case. Presumably Congress's authorization would be required to embark on such an endeavor, and it's hard to see how such a proposal would get through the Senate. It may be that, as a political matter, we need to try something along the lines of the Geithner plan before we take the next step.
So what I'd be interested in seeing from Krugman and others is some analysis of what, from an economic perspective, we're risking by trying the Geithner approach first. In other words, putting aside your assessment of the country's political will, is there anything about the Geithner plan that would foreclose the possibility of successfully executing a Swedish-style nationalization down the road? Or put yet another way, from an economic perspective, what is the opportunity cost of pursuing the Geithner plan? Does nationalize have to happen right now in order to work?
UPDATE: Kevin Drum and I seem to be on the same page on this one.
UPDATE II: Along the same lines, one of the political problems that proponents of nationalization seem to be underestimating is how difficult it would be for the Obama administration to lobby hard for a nationalization bill without sending the financial system into chaos. Those who argue for nationalization do so by pointing out how bad the current situation is. They argue that many of our banks are in much worse shape than they are letting on, that they are essentially "zombie banks" that are massively insolvent if their assets are properly valued. That may well be true, but it's one thing for Paul Krugman to say that and quite another for President Obama and the Treasury Secretary to say that. The Obama administration has to be concerned that if they make the arguments necessary to win the public debate on a proposed nationalization bill, they could erode whatever public confidence still remains in the banking system, thereby exacerbating the problem and making it look as if they triggered it. This is always the Catch 22 with problems like these. If you are brutally honest in your diagnosis of the problem, you can actually make the problem much worse.
It seems to me that trying to "sell" Congress on a nationalization plan, at least without first attempting all other reasonable options, is an inherently risky proposition. It could trigger panic. And even if that panic was inevitable, there's a real risk that you end up getting blamed for the consequences. That would truly erode your political capital. You might get your nationalization bill, but forget about anything else.



23 Comments:
Yes, I trust Krugman's analysis, but not his political instincts. Having seen the craziness over AIG, I'm also not certain that we could at the moment nationalize the banks and do what needs to be done. One significant mistake—with a situation as complex and screwed up as this one, who doubts there would be mistakes—and people would be out for blood; and unlike the situation with AIG, the GOP would be in a position to be leading the attack.
On the other hand, I'm disturbed by the inability of Geithner and/or Obama to give a convincing explanation of the plan. I've come to the conclusion that they, like Krugman, don't actually believe the plan will work; it's just that all of the alternatives are worse (or at least have more catastrophic potential).
I think nationalization is the most rational option, but not yet politically feasible. For that he would need a bigger still majority in the Senate - and that's just the legislative element.
Republicans get more mileage out of running around in little circles screaming "the sky is falling!!" than actually DOING anything, and they'll make every attempt to block Obama no matter what he attempts. They need to be shut out of this until they grow up.
Until the other side decides to actually participate, Obama's best bet is to wait until he has one or two more Democratic senators. Al Franken is in the pipe for sure - maybe another one somewhere? If he can hold out long enough, 2010 will give him everything he needs.
I am just a lay person and am no economist, but I have several critiques:
1) Transparency and clarity have been missing from Obama/Geithner plans. The reason there was such a furor over the bonuses was that it was a very simple thing for any layman to understand - we are paying hundreds of millions dollars of bonuses to the very people who created this disaster.
2) The problem should have been handled at the mortgage level by offering everyone lower rates, by allowing people to renegotiate their mortgages without forgiving any principal, and to have a system which in case of default penalized both homeowners who took the risky loan and the lender who made the risky loan. And let some more institutions go to Chapter 11 like Lehman Brothers.
Where, oh where to start . . .
1) Nationalization is what the Federal Deposit Insurnace Corporation does each and every time it takes over a failed bank and sells off the assets. SO I don't buy the argument that nationalization is politically or economically impractical. I think it's the size of the banks in question that gives others pause, not the actual mechanism.
2) I've argued beforethat we need to get the banks, Wall street and any other financial business out o fthe way, and use federal personnel to sort out the toxic asset part of this mess. Then, and only then, can U.S. Taxpayers be assured that any further money will go to cover actual losses, instead of allowing banks to hide their dirty laundry.
3). Judging by the loud chorus of cheers from Wall Street, the newest plan will be bad for Americans generally.
Judging by the loud chorus of cheers from Wall Street, the newest plan will be bad for Americans generally.
I tend to agree. It goes back to the point I was saying earlier that there is no transparency and clarity about what has been proposed. We need to know what the problems are, how those problems are being addressed, how will this not reward bad behavior, etc.
Nationalization is what the Federal Deposit Insurnace Corporation does each and every time it takes over a failed bank and sells off the assets. SO I don't buy the argument that nationalization is politically or economically impractical. I think it's the size of the banks in question that gives others pause, not the actual mechanism.
Philip, I don't think that's right. The FDIC does not currently have all the authority it would need to execute a Swedish style plan. For instance, I read recently that the FDIC would only have the power to nationalize a small chunk of Citi, given its transnational nature and the diversity of its enterprises. The same is likely true of some of the other big banks. Therefore, at the very least the FDIC's powers would have to be expanded for this to work.
A.L. I don't agree. The whole crux of my arguement (and I'll grant I may need more coffee to write it) is that the FDIC, being a federal government agency, makes any bank it takes over a NAtional asset, effectively nationalizing the bank. The FDIC then disposes of the assets according to its policies and regluations, all the while paying back depositors and creditors as it can. Since this happens regularly (And is happening now) I was simply pointing to thatprocess to dispel the myth that nationalization is some new boogieman that is slowly sneaking out of the closet. And if Citi's Transnational nature shields it from the folley of its own excesses, that's just too bad. U.S. law and U.S. Agencies need to deal with U.S. businesses first.
Philip,
I wasn't suggesting that nationalization is some crazy idea or that it's all that different from what the FDIC has been doing for decades. My point is that I don't think the Obama administration could execute a Swedish-style nationalization of the major banks without Congressional approval. Not only would the FDIC's powers have to be expanded, but Congress would need to appropriate the necessary capital, which the FDIC doesn't currently have. So any nationalization plan would have to get through Congress, and I don't think the votes are there, at least not yet.
the chickenhawks have now transformed into chicken little; first we had to go towar, then wars, and now the sky is falling. republican relevency is deteriorating at a rapid pace- they might as well be the bull-moose party.
Perhaps it would help to look at this from another angle. First, will all the people who think the FDIC doesn't have enough power already, please raise their hand? Consider, while you ponder your response, that they've already committed us to a few trillion and flooded the world with dollars. For another medical analogy, they've put the patient on oxygen and powerful anticoagulants, removed the spleen, and applied electric shock. Are you sure you want to opt, at this point, for a heart transplant?
Unlike many, I don't have enormous faith in Obama and his administration. Especially Geithner, who does not seem very honest or forthright. At this point, however, after the international investment corporations (I don't think you should call them "banks" anymore) have grown so huge and straddle the world, "nationalizing" them would appear to me to be a good way to introduce a huge chunk of international strife into the crisis.
I doubt that would actually improve things. It would probably result in a situation where getting something through Congress would seem minor in comparison.
I would much prefer a minimally-invasive procedure and a long-term plan of weight-reduction (tax reform -- and a healthy increase in the taxes on big money) and exercise (stimulus!) to bring the patient back to health once the body survives the crisis.
Hi A.L.,
I think you may have this one wrong. While I don't disagree Krugman's political analysis may be incorrect (though I think his scenario is more feasible than you), I also don't feel the central crux of his argument is political. I think his primary theme, especially in context with his blog for the last couple of months, has been "Heads you win, tails we lose," and this is exactly what's happened again.
"So what I'd be interested in seeing from Krugman and others is some analysis of what, from an economic perspective, we're risking by trying the Geithner approach first."
I'm not an economist, but from my reading of Krugman, I think his problem is that if it works, the investors who caused this problem are rewarded by government intervention (Countrywide as PennyMac, for example). If it doesn't work, those same people are still protected by government insurance against their losses, while the problem continues to worsen, unemployment continues to rise, equity keeps falling, foreclosures keep rising, and the closer we come to deflation, which has also been a concern of Krugman's.
Either way, the people who originally made poor choices get rewarded, but without guarantee the problem gets solved. With nationalization, we remove that dilemma, and make sure those who are investing the capital (taxpayers) get the rewards, rather than this being another transfer of wealth to the rich.
And if this plan is seen as being a transfer of money to the rich, which it is and could easily be spun that way, don't you think Krugman might be right about the politics? Don't you think Obama might lose political capital? Do you think the Senate would be willing to help him out at that point?
Some thoughts for consideration,
Brian
Brian nails it on the head. More important than these political considerations are an analysis of the effects of the Geithner plan. Is this another instance of privatizing the gains and socializing the losses? How do those who made these horrid decisions get penalized? How do we ensure that our economy is not held hostage by the big public financial institutions?
Oops I meant private, not public.
I don't know why you say that nobody likes this plan. The market seems to like it just fine. Considering that the market has reacted negatively to every other plan that either Bush or Obama has put out, that ought to count for something.
The object of the plan, as I understand it, is to create a market for toxic assets, which will enable people to value those assets. That in turn will give us a sense of which financial institutions are insolvent and need to be put into some sort of receivership.
Whether the plan will work, I don't know, but at least I can understand how it might work, which is a step forward. Finally, change we can believe in.
The object of the plan, as I understand it, is to create a market for toxic assets, which will enable people to value those assets. That in turn will give us a sense of which financial institutions are insolvent and need to be put into some sort of receivership.
Why does the government need to do that, when traditionally it has been Wall Street which creates such markets?
I have no problem with people evaluating and buying such assets as long as the government is not left stuck with the tab. The very thing that happened with AIG.
BTW - I really hate the term "toxic assets" as it tends to obfuscate the real problem. Wall Street gambled and lost. "Gambling debts" is a more appropriate term. Don't these huge corporations have any sane risk management?
How many folks view their homes as "toxic assets"?
How many folks view their homes as "toxic assets"?
It's not the homes that are the toxic assets. It's the mortgages and the mortgage backed securities. The homes are the collateral. The assets are the projected revenue streams from the mortgages. Their value depends on how likely it is that people will continue to make their mortgage payments. Because no one knows how bad things are going to get, there's no market for these mortgages and mortgage backed securities at the moment.
Fair enough A.L., but if people weren't buying them before today, the only reason they will buy them tomorrow is because Geithner has offered them a "heads you win, tails I lose" proposition.
Hopefully it won't come to a tail, but the Wall Street brainiacs couldn't imagine either the situation we are in today.
The object of the plan, as I understand it, is to create a market for toxic assets, which will enable people to value those assets. That in turn will give us a sense of which financial institutions are insolvent and need to be put into some sort of receivership.
Uh-huh. Yep, we sure will create a "market", and a proper valuation of the toxic assets, what with non-recourse loans from the FDIC financing fully 85% of the purchases, high expected returns for private partners even with negative expected returns on the investment, and losses for private partners limited to 3% of the investment and gain equal to 17% of the gain. And lots of potential opportunities to hedge funds to game the system for even more profits.
As for determining which banks are solvent and insolvent -- isn't the whole point of the plan is to make the banks look solvent again -- and thus to stop the bank runs? And ever notice that the once-ballyhooed "stress tests" have dropped out of the picture?
The more I think about it, the more this plan seems to be another cover for banks to not have to admit to their mistakes. Think about it - is there anything in the plan, as anyone has seen it covered that will allow for the unfloding the the mortgage-backed securities, so that foreclosed mortgages (which are th only part of these "assets" that are toxic) can be dealt with separately from the healthy underlying loans?
Anyone? Bueller?
No? Haven't seen that approach? That was my whole point yesterday. If we get the peices and parts unwound, and separated, the remaining securities that are composed of good healthy loans will then have value. As long a sthey are tied through the slicing and repackaging to foreclosed loans, they have little value. Without separation, the "market" will be creating value for things that should have no value, and reducing value for things that should. All so Citi and BofA don't have to do a perp walk.
I remember reading somewhere that the idea of an auction / having investors bid for the toxic goodies came from Warren Buffet.
"might as well just be outraged by everything and let the adults make the hard decisions." hahaha, I like that.
and then Gary Becker seems to favor a do-noting approach
A.L., the counter-argument to your positions was written by Reich back in January, and I think he's right:
How to Keep the Banking System in the Private Sector
The key relevant points are:
1. The Treasury could achieve de facto nationalization without legislation:
Technically, the Treasury has a controlling interest in many of these banks if it wanted to exercise that interest. As to many other banks, the Treasury could easily gain a controlling interest; their remaining common shares are worth so little now that Treasury could buy just buy them up.
Reich doesn't seem to be advocating this exactly, but he is advocating that Treasury use this leverage to force substantial reorganization.
2. The danger of delaying forceful action (and we've already delayed for months) is that the "toxic assets" aren't something you can just wall of from the rest of the economy. The damage gets worse with each passing day:
Six months ago it may have made sense for the government to buy up so-called "toxic assets," based on home mortgages that should never have been issued. Three months ago it may have made sense to establish a "bad bank" to store them in, until they could be resold.
But as the Mini Depression worsens, "toxic assets" are no longer all that distinct from a vast and growing sea of non-performing or endangered loans on the banks' balance sheets. Toxicity has spread to loans made to people and companies that were good credit risks as recently as early last year but are now bad risks. You don't have to be an honest financier (no oxymoron intended) to figure this out: Ten percent of Americans are behind on paying their mortgages. Millions more are behind on paying their credit-card bills. Hundreds of thousands of small businesses are behind on paying their own bills. Auto suppliers are can't pay their bills. And so it goes.
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