Friday, October 17, 2008

There's No Such Thing As Voter Fraud

The quadrennial alarmism from Republican circles about the danger of "voter fraud" is something I'm used to. But this time around they are really out-doing themselves. In the debate the other night, John McCain made this ludicrous statement:
"[W]e need to know the full extent of Sen. Obama's relationship with ACORN, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy."
That is, quite simply, one of the more insanely paranoid things that has ever been said in a presidential debate. The reality is that ACORN and groups like it pose NO THREAT WHATSOEVER to our democracy. As Dahlia Lithwick points out it in a typically insightful column today, there is an entire world of difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud:
[E]ven if Mr. Mouse is registered to vote, he still needs to show up at his polling place, provide a fake ID, and risk a felony conviction to do so.

Large-scale, coordinated vote stealing doesn't happen. The incentives—unlike the incentives for registration fraud—just aren't there. In an interview this week with Salon, Lorraine Minnite of Barnard College, who has studied vote fraud systematically, noted that "between 2002 to 2005 only one person was found guilty of registration fraud. Twenty others were found guilty of voting while ineligible and five were guilty of voting more than once. That's 26 criminal voters." Twenty-six criminal voters despite the fact that U.S. attorneys, like David Iglesias in New Mexico, were fired for searching high and low for vote-fraud cases to prosecute and coming up empty. . . .

RNC General Counsel Sean Cairncross has said he is unaware of a single improper vote cast because of bad cards submitted in the course of a voter-registration effort. Republican campaign consultant Royal Masset says, "[I]n-person voter fraud is nonexistent. It doesn't happen, and ... makes no sense because who's going to take the risk of going to jail on something so blatant that maybe changes one vote?"

There is no such thing as vote fraud.
Indeed. And you really don't need to look at all the studies and empirical data showing that this doesn't happen, because basic common sense tells you that it can't. One of the fundamental rules of criminality is that the more people it takes to commit a crime, the lower the odds that the crime will ever be attempted. As the number of people gets bigger, the probability of occurence quickly reaches zero.

No individual person has any rational motive to commit voter fraud. It's a felony. And one vote just doesn't matter enough, no matter how strong your political beliefs are, to justify the risk of committing such a felony. The only way fraudulent voting could make a difference is if it was perpetrated on a massive scale. So let's consider what this massive conspiracy would necessarily involve:

1) You would have to submit an enormous number of fraudulent but seemingly legitimate voter registrations. Remember, the state still has to process and accept the registrations before the names get added to voter rolls. Duplicative registrations and ones with names like "Mickey Mouse" aren't going to cut it. The fact that Republicans keep hyping examples like this shows how little thought they've given this. If ACORN was really trying to commit voter fraud, wouldn't they use names that aren't obviously fraudulent?

2) State officials would have to process and approve a very large number of these fraudulent registration applications.

3) On election day, you would have to convince tens of thousands of people (at minimum) to go out and commit felonies. And once convinced, these people would still need to go to the right polling places and present the right credentials. Given how hard it is to convince people to go vote under normal circumstances, this is a pretty tall order.

Some suggest that this willing army of criminals might be recruited from the ranks of illegal aliens or unnaturalized citizens, people who are not eligible to vote. That's nonsense. Illegal aliens live in constant fear of being discovered and deported. Good luck getting an illegal alien to submit a registration form much less actually go to a polling station. And legal residents have very similar fears. Voter fraud is a deportable offense. These folks value their immigration status more than anything in the world and would never risk it in order to cast a vote.

Indeed, for every voter willing to commit voter fraud (a minuscule number), there are scores more who are eligible to vote but don't because of unfounded fears that they will somehow get in trouble. Voter suppression is a far, far bigger problem. Indeed, much of the hysteria about voter fraud is specifically aimed at scaring eligible voters away from the polls or causing eligible voters to be stricken from the voter rolls. That's a much more serious risk to the "fabric of our democracy."
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11 Comments:

Anonymous Farrapo said...

Your last paragraph gets to the heart of the matter. Republicans know there is no legitimate voter fraud issue. They merely want to create an environment of intimidation and uncertainty to suppress voter turnout.

This is yet another of their Orwellian endeavors - deploy the ruse of fictitious voter fraud in order to encourage non-voting. It's an example of the depths of their cynicism and fundamental non-belief in the democratic system (disguised as a defense of democracy of course).

Fortunately the Supreme Court ruled the right way on the Ohio challenge.

12:47 PM  
Blogger Dread Scot said...

Indeed. And you really don't need to look at all the studies and empirical data showing that this doesn't happen, because basic common sense tells you that it can't.

It's not really cynicism for many. Conservative dogma is full of conspiracy theories involving large numbers of people acting out of spite or malice with little to gain or even against their own interests while simultaneously dismissing the possibility of small numbers of people acting well within their ability and having considerable to gain for little risk. Global warming denial is an example. Climate scientists pushing an incredible hoax to destroy the economy despite standing to loose what is probably most important to them, their credibility? Perfectly believable. Energy companies expending trivial amounts of money to spread disinformation and buy government inaction to defend revenue streams worth hundreds of billions of dollars a year? Absolutely ridiculous. Could never happen, despite the tobacco companies having provided an example of just that over far less money.

I have a feeling there is more than a little projection involved, but there is also paranoia and the not unrealistic fear of the dominant position of white christianist males atop the social, economic and political hierarchy being eroded even further and eventually lost completely.

There is also something which has become much more plainly obvious of late. Republicans and conservatives have definitions of America and Americans that include only them and exclude everyone else. When they were chanting "USA! USA! USA!" at the RNC convention, it wasn't because they put country before party. It was because they don't make the distinction. Anyone not a loyal member of their tribe is for all intents and purposes a foreign enemy, even if they have official documents indicating otherwise. That's why disliking or disagreeing with anyone or anything conservative or Republican is 'hating America' but someone like Bill O'Reilly wishing violent death on thousands of Americans or Ann Coulter proposing to put half of America in concentration camps is just good wholesome patriotic conservative Christian family values. The people they would see dead and/or imprisoned don't count as Americans. Likewise, the people Acorn is registering to vote are predominantly people Republicans view as a illegitimate. The fact that they may be legally entitled to vote is a technicality that doesn't count for much and there is probably some way to rationalize that as illegitimate too.

What McCain said in the debate was so over the top paranoid delusional you could almost hear the beating of the rotors on the black helicopters in the background, but I'm afraid it connected with a lot of people. Obama didn't help by doing as much to distance himself from Acorn as he did to counter the allegations. By volume and tone of voice, Republicans expect to convince many if not most Americans that the real problem is voter fraud, and concerns of vote suppression are just nonsense and whining. Once they have set the tone, few (other than the usual suspects) will dare to disagree with them for fear of being seen as part of the problem (or the conspiracy).

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does the liberal media take this voter fraud BS seriously?

It's entirely possible that Republicans intentionally filled out
bad Acorn forms just to embarass them.

Everyone who knows someone in GOP politics has heard them brag about dirty tricks a few years after an election.

7:30 PM  
Blogger whatsyourevidence said...

Excellent post, AL. Clear and irrefutable.

9:34 PM  
Anonymous Farrapo said...

Here in NC we continue to be bombarded with Republican robo calls. Every one of them is intensely negative and patently dishonest. Last week we got a bunch of lies about taxes (the discredited canard that Obama will raises taxes on those making $42K/year). Then the Ayers crap. Today I got an anti-union call, of all things. The gist was that evil unions are trying to intimidate you and take away your rights.

It's enough to shake one's faith in free speech to see the way Republicans deliberately lie, distort, and deceive.

9:54 AM  
Blogger A said...

You forgot to mention that all the fake voters would probably have to be voting at least twice to have their vote count any more were they to just vote, you know, non-fraudulently.

10:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AI

For your amusement - Halperin grades McCain's last debate:

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1850933,00.html

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Note - Halperin thinks McCain's dishonest and defensive "I'm not President Bush" was some kind of worldly zinger.

5:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you think you are; some kinda Jedi or something?

Mind tricks don't work on a Conservative.

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your blog is razor sharp and deeply inciteful. it's good to know that there are still people out there who think and are articulate.i wish more americans were like that.

9:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another argument so poorly reasoned, it HAD to have been written by a liberal.

What I find most interesting is the sweeping claim that voter fraud IS NOT
POSSIBLE. Gimme a break. The polling booths aren't guarded by Marines--
they're guarded by people like Larry and Joanne North. (And don't try to tell me
people like that don't have an individual interest in swaying the election =)

The first fallacy in this article is the assumption that the only type of voter fraud
is individual voter fraud. Whether it's likely or not, it is at least possible to rig
votes on a large scale. To say that large scale voter fraud isn't possible AT ALL
is like saying the World Trade Center was destroyed by the CIA.... In other
words, it's idiotic.

The second fallacy is---well, let me quote:

******And you really don't need to look at all the studies and empirical data
showing that this doesn't happen, (WHAT STUDIES OR EMPIRICAL DATA HAVE
BEEN PRESENTED???? - THEY'RE NOT SERIOUSLY QUOTING LORI MINNITE AGAIN,
ARE THEY??!!) because basic common sense tells you that it can't. One of the

fundamental rules of criminality is that the more people it takes to commit a
crime, the lower the odds that the crime will ever be attempted. As the number

of people gets bigger, the probability of occurence quickly reaches zero.*****


This is a great example of the kind of specious reasoning that makes the liberal
mind so vulnerable (and so gullible)....Basically, the more people it takes to
commit a crime, the less likely the crime will be committed, until the manpower
required is so great, the statistical probability reaches zero. I guess the guy who
argues this doesn't believe the Holocaust to be a crime, or slavery, or the sex
slave trade now going on in the Far East.

In generalizing about potential large-scale criminal conduct (which is what this
idiot is doing), the so-called "probability of occurrence" NEVER EVER EVER
reaches zero----crimes can still be committed, even if it takes a lot of
manpower for them to occur, and even if the statistical probability is low.

Typical in this article is something I find to be all too common in liberal
arguments (whether made by those in the media, those in Hollywood, or those
devoted to "educating" our youth)---

Liberals are permitted to make unfounded and sweeping claims about things---
e.g. voter fraud isn't possible, an ice age is imminent, global warming is
imminent, nuclear power is dangerous, Muslims are peaceful, terrorism is not a
threat to America, etc. etc. etc.--- and when the evidence proves them wrong,
they simply change their position and cover their tracks.

Sorry to most of America's journalists, educators and celebrities, but while
culture may be relative, the rules of logic are universal and unchanging.

10:18 PM  
Blogger A.L. said...

The first fallacy in this article is the assumption that the only type of voter fraud is individual voter fraud. Whether it's likely or not, it is at least possible to rig votes on a large scale.

Lots of things are possible, but are so unlikely as to not be worthy concerning ourselves with. Moreover, I'm not talking about election rigging, which is something entirely different (usually referred to as "election fraud," not "voter fraud"). My point was that there is no reason, logically or empirically, to think that voter fraud actually happens.

To say that large scale voter fraud isn't possible AT ALL is like saying the World Trade Center was destroyed by the CIA.... In other
words, it's idiotic.


This is worst point I've ever seen anyone make. Seriously. It actually reinforces my argument, not yours. My point was that large scale conspiracies are so improbable as to not be worth worrying about. When thousands of people have to participate in the conspiracy in order for it to work, it's just operationally feasible. Believing in large scale voter fraud is on par with believing that 9/11 was an inside job.

10:32 PM  

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