Friday, October 03, 2008

Palin and the Pundits

I don't want to dwell too much on the Vice Presidential debate, largely because I don't think it's going to end up being all that important in the long run, but I just can't get over the commentary I'm seeing on TV about it. It's like television pundits live in some parallel universe. Even Chris Matthews, who was otherwise pretty critical of Palin's performance, kept praising her ability to deliver memorized talking points. If I hadn't actually watched the debate myself, but had just heard the coverage of it, I'd think that she had delivered a very polished performance, that she had at least been articulate and engaging.

But by any objective standard, that just wasn't the case. The proof is in the pudding. Here are just a few gems from the transcript.

In response to Biden's discussion of taxes:
I do take issue with some of the principle there with that redistribution of wealth principle that seems to be espoused by you.
On whether she supports the 2005 bankruptcy bill:
But here, again, there have -- there have been so many changes in the conditions of our economy in just even these past weeks that there has been more and more revelation made aware now to Americans about the corruption and the greed on Wall Street.

We need to look back, even two years ago, and we need to be appreciative of John McCain's call for reform with Fannie Mae, with Freddie Mac, with the mortgage-lenders, too, who were starting to really kind of rear that head of abuse.

And the colleagues in the Senate weren't going to go there with him. So we have John McCain to thank for at least warning people. And we also have John McCain to thank for bringing in a bipartisan effort people to the table so that we can start putting politics aside, even putting a campaign aside, and just do what's right to fix this economic problem that we are in.
It is a crisis. It's a toxic mess, really, on Main Street that's affecting Wall Street.
When asked whether it’s true that she and McCain oppose giving bankruptcy judges the power to adjust mortgages:
That is not so, but because that's just a quick answer, I want to talk about, again, my record on energy versus your ticket's energy ticket, also.
On climate change:
Yes. Well, as the nation's only Arctic state and being the governor of that state, Alaska feels and sees impacts of climate change more so than any other state. And we know that it's real.

I'm not one to attribute every man -- activity of man to the changes in the climate. There is something to be said also for man's activities, but also for the cyclical temperature changes on our planet.

But there are real changes going on in our climate. And I don't want to argue about the causes. What I want to argue about is, how are we going to get there to positively affect the impacts? We have got to clean up this planet.
On when the use of nuclear weapons is justified:
Nuclear weaponry, of course, would be the be all, end all of just too many people in too many parts of our planet, so those dangerous regimes, again, cannot be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, period.

Our nuclear weaponry here in the U.S. is used as a deterrent. And that's a safe, stable way to use nuclear weaponry.
But for those countries -- North Korea, also, under Kim Jong Il -- we have got to make sure that we're putting the economic sanctions on these countries and that we have friends and allies supporting us in this to make sure that leaders like Kim Jong Il and Ahmadinejad are not allowed to acquire, to proliferate, or to use those nuclear weapons. It is that important.
Can we talk about Afghanistan real quick, also, though?
On something:
Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education and I'm glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right?
On whether the Vice President is part of the executive or legislative branch:
Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.
This is pathetic. It makes George W. Bush look like a wordsmith. Just about any college grad could do this well given the same amount of preparation and coaching.

I'll leave you with this rant from Chris Matthews:
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11 Comments:

Anonymous Ken Ward said...

It is striking that three times in the transcript quotations Palin confuses cause and effect. She has climate change causing man's actions, the mess on Main Street affecting Wall Street and her own experience being the result of her selection as vice-presidential nominee. Is this poor grasp of English vocabulary or is there a more frightening failure to understand causation?

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Consistently avoiding questions by changing the subject in a debate is contemptuous.

Matthews is right on, but a lot of pundits want to keep framing the campaign as a popularity contest in which telegenic skills carries entirely too much weight. She was talking to THE CAMERA, in a way that appears "natural", but is really just as self-consciously studied as the way a model walks down a runway. Surely the TV pundits know this.

Does Sarah get so much credit for the same reason that the press loved Reagan so much more than the public ever did?

wiley

10:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah and if you think THAT'S scary, look at this:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1463341016?bctid=1827891038

3:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Palin is riding a wave of public fascination. It is in the self-serving best interest of interviewers, pundits and news agencies as a whole to say positive things about her in the hope of possibly garnering an interview. Thursday night's ratings had very little to do with Joe Biden and they know it.

6:32 AM  
Anonymous DanJoaquinOz said...

"Just about any college graduate could do this well given the same amount of preparation and coaching."

Huh? What do you mean by "this well"? I'd be severely disappointed with any Australian high school graduate who answered this poorly. Having been educated in both the US & Australia I do understand there are huge differences in academic expectations between the 2 countries, but would this REALLY be considered remotely adequate from an American college graduate? Apart from the painfully tortured syntax there is an astonishing failure to even address the topic. If this is considered an even average level of response from a "college grad", the American education system has deteriorated far more than I would have guessed possible...

7:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The snap polls made it clear that ordinary people were treating it as more akin to an Olympic qualifying event than a school play. Sure, Palin completed the race, set a personal best, and deserves credit for being the most improved, but she still didn't meet the qualifying standard -- while Biden lapped her again and again.

12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While discussing this debate with my friends, many of whom are strong Democrats, I've been pretty uncompromising in my belief that Palin was absolutely terrible. I was really shocked by how inarticulate she was; she wasn't even speaking in complete sentences most of the time! I will say that the McCain campaign did a fairly good job in working the refs (Gwen Ifill totally failed to ask specific questions or insist that Palin answer the questions she did ask) and in lowering expectations through the floor with the Couric interviews.

Ironically, Palin's incoherence was also a huge factor in Biden's success. As the debate progressed, he seemed to be realized that she truly was speaking gibberish mixed with lame talking points most of the time, and he really was more forceful in the last hour. He didn't really need to engage her.

1:20 PM  
Anonymous culturepress said...

No, she is certainly not articulate. She didn't do as badly as this: "Oil and coal, of course, it... it is a fungible commodity, and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where... where it's going and to where it's not but, in the... in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first." (Palin, on September 17, 2008)--but she still sounded ignorant and incoherent.

She threw in all the right expressions, catch phrases, and talking points, that the "below-average" half of this country probably picked up on, and probably liked.

There is such a blatant bias from those pundits who are actually trying to pull off that she "did well." Unbelievable.

At least a few smart conservatives like Kathleen Parker know what's going and are telling it like it is: http://culturepress.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/palin-won-fersure/

2:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the quote about jumping into a sentence and praying to God to get you back out?

This Mark Twain quote is close:

"Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth."

5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, it's from the Curmudgeon's Guide to Practicing Law:

"Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson once said, throws himself into the middle of a sentence and prays that God will get him out."

5:54 PM  
Anonymous feefifoto said...

As a former resident of Louisiana I was enormously insulted by her implication that Alaska has borne the brunt of global warming, and I bet residents of Florida, Texas and Mississippi felt the same.

8:15 PM  

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