Thursday, September 18, 2008

The Rise and Fall of Sarah Palin

With the latest round of polls confirming that Obama has recaptured the national lead and that Sarah Palin's favorability rating is sinking rapidly (two developments that I suspect are closely related), the realization that Palin may end up being a liability and not an asset is slowly starting to dawn on conservatives, and it's a sad sight to behold. Take, for example, this distraught post by Jay Nordlinger at the National Review. Nordlinger discusses the kinds of emails he's been getting from NRO readers:
Other readers said that Palin was finished, done: “I see that the polls have dramatically switched in Obama’s favor within just one week. I guess that the Borking — the destruction — of this governor is complete.” Another reader said, “I thought Sarah Palin would be a superstar. Now, she’ll be nothing more than a national joke. The Republicans haven’t fought back. The MSM has won.”
Yes, the MSM has really conspired to bring her down. First, they investigated her background because no one knew anything about her. Then they backed off when Republicans screamed that that it was sexist to ask basic questions about her background and qualifications. Then they effusively praised her convention speech. Then, after she refused to submit to even a single media interview for weeks, they had the temerity to suggest that a Vice Presidential candidate really should be interviewed. Then when one reporter finally got the chance, he asked some basic questions that she didn't answer particularly well. That's quite a conspiracy. But Nordlinger continues:
Then there is continuing amazement over the sheer hatred that Palin has aroused: “I am almost 60 and come from Massachusetts. In all my years, I have never seen anything like this, and don’t want to see it ever again. I have a friend who is both feminist and left-leaning. I asked her why they hate Palin so much. She said, ‘Because she’s had it all: family, career. And she did it without a man like Bill Clinton helping her. She did it on her own.’”
Yeah, that's definitely why left-leaning women don't like her. Because she made it on her own. In all seriousness, that may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Nordlinger then gets personal:
I myself have a tale to relate. An episode left me kind of shaken, honestly. Last week, I was talking to a friend of mine — a very warm and humane woman. We’ve been friends for years. I had been away, and we hadn’t talked politics — but then, we never do. We never had. She’s a liberal, of course — virtually everyone here in NYC is. And I never, ever bring up politics (with pretty much anyone — not worth the trouble) (and, of course, I do it professionally).But she said to me, out of the blue, “What do you think of Sarah Palin?” And while I was drawing breath to answer, she said, “I hate her.”

That kind of took my breath away — because this friend of mine is no hater. But she said it with firm, horrible conviction. She said it with true emotion in her eyes. Frankly, I was too taken aback to reply, other than to say, “Well, my feeling is the exact opposite.”

I can see how you might disagree with Governor Palin — she’s a conservative, after all. I can see how you might find her unprepared even for the vice-presidency. But hate? Hate a woman who rose from a modest background to be governor of her state? Who is obviously a warm, civic-minded, talented mother of five?
He concludes with this:
I consider myself a very patriotic person, and I have been teased or damned all my life for my pro-American views — particularly in academic settings. But, I’m sorry, this is, in many ways, a sick country.
Boo hoo. People don't like Sarah Palin, and therefore we're a sick country. I wonder, has Nordingler ever listened to the folks on right wing radio talk about Michelle Obama? They hate her, spewing endless vile about how she's some kind of angry anti-American militant. And this entire caricature is based on a few statements taken completely out of context. She too is a "warm, civic-minded, talented mother." For that matter, so is Hillary Clinton, who right-wingers have spent the last 18 years hating passionately. Same goes for Nancy Pelosi and virtually every other female Democratic politician who has been the object of Republican hatred.

But let's return to the subject of Sarah Palin. Is it really so hard to understand why a certain segment of the population is so turned off by her? After all, she introduced herself to the country with a speech that--while well-delivered--was very mean-spirited and filled with cheap shots directed at her opponents (who had been nothing but respectful to her). It was a speech designed to rally the Republican base and, therefore, axiomatically, to piss off the Democratic base. That was the goal. Mission accomplished.

Moreover, Palin has spent her first few weeks in the national spotlight making transparently cynical overtures to Clinton voters (who have nothing in common with her) and repeatedly lying about her own record. People don't like being lied to. Sometimes they even come to despise the people who continue to do so even after their lies have been exposed. This is a very predictable response and hardly evidence that our nation is "sick."

Conservatives really need to get a grip. Palin just isn't the magical savior you thought she would be. Stop whining.

UPDATE: As if to prove my point, Michelle Malkin's has a new post entitled "Obama's Bitter Half: She's Baaaaaack." It begins:
I get a half-dozen e-mails a day asking me, “Where’s Michelle Obama?” Well, The Queen of “Downright Mean” has returned.
This kind of stuff is perfectly sane and rational, but when people don't like Sarah Palin, it's evidence of how "sick" the world is. Please.
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20 Comments:

Anonymous barkleyg said...

"But hate? Hate a woman who rose from a modest background to be governor of her state? Who is obviously a warm, civic-minded, talented mother of five?"

Pot meet Kettle.

Also, if you change a few of the above quoted words, does this carry over for Obama? Not with Repugs. They know a good "dog whistle" when they hear one, this bunch of self-rightous a_holes

2:38 PM  
Anonymous SteveIL said...

Nordlinger: And while I was drawing breath to answer, she said, “I hate her.”

From the post.

People don't like Sarah Palin, and therefore we're a sick country.

I wonder, has Nordingler ever listened to the folks on right wing radio talk about Michelle Obama? They hate her, spewing endless vile about how she's some kind of angry anti-American militant. And this entire caricature is based on a few statements taken completely out of context.

First, you are projecting. Second, your using a strawman to justify Nordlinger's friend hating Palin.

Did you actually read what you clipped from Nordlinger? This woman doesn't just not like Palin, the woman hates her. I can understand not liking her policies, but hate? What did Palin ever do to this woman who lives in NYC that would cause this kind of hatred?

As far as Michelle Obama, she was never taken out of context, and conservatives don't hate her. That's where you're projecting liberals' hatred of Palin. I've seen the Michelle Obama video and everything that she said before and after, put it all in context, and she does sound like an angry militant (no, I don't believe she's anti-American).

And nobody I've seen on my side has questioned her as a mother, or even Barack as a father. And yet, the liberal mainstream media and other leftists, including the slimes in the Obama campaign, still come out with garbage on her parenting abilities, her husband's parenting abilities, or why Bristol Palin hasn't gotten an abortion.

Hell, liberals can't even honestly tell which lies they continue to perpetuate, and continue to project this on Palin.

3:07 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

Steveil,

You need to learn how to handle pronouns.

Also, you need to learn what a "strawman" argument is, and what "projection" is, because you evidently have no clue. Either that or stop trying to use terms you don't understand.

Of course, from what I've seen, if you restricted yourself to things you have some grasp on, however feeble -- it would be a fair bit less noisy here.

3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am not a true believer liberal, nor a mother, and probably sexist, but when palin claims she is handling home and job, while she has a pregnant teen, and a druggie son shipped off to the military and a disadvantaged infant (no need for maternal leave for wonder woman), she is denigrating motherhood and all the moms who know motherhood is a full time job and corners are cut, with some guilt, by those moms who must work. Things are going well at home when the children are on track, doing well in school etc. so possibly women dislike her because she is a liar. The FACTS of her private life are at odds with her narrative, just as the FACTS of her public accomplishments.

3:45 PM  
Anonymous Luke said...

SteveIL offers yet another contorted Rube Goldberg defense of his hate-filled perspective. Talk about "projection"!

First of all, as a card-carrying representative of the "angry left" I can pretty much guarantee there isn't a person alive on the LEFT who thinks negatively of a woman who gets ahead 'without a man'. Are you freaking Phyllis Schlafly kidding? This Nordlinger weirdo is either a) making it up, or b) talking to a crazy-person. Knowing the way you guys operate it's probably 'a'.

No sane person should fall for that kind of baiting crap, btw.

Please please, show me a REAL quote of a left-leaning person who 'hates' successful women who did it all without a man. Since it's so obviously true to you, you must have plenty of examples at your fingertips. Right?

Lord, if you suggested that to my wife (another bona fide member of the angry left) she'd probably slap you in the face!

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i miss virginia conservative.

just something about that gloating-with-pom-poms style.

4:39 PM  
Blogger Don said...

"i miss virginia conservative."

Well, there's still steveil. He's quickly becoming this blog's "Bart DePalma." I mean, take away Bart's legal background, articulate prose, and civility, and you've pretty much got steveil.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Luke said...

I preferred vc for sure. He had a certain enthusiastic sincerity. I actually started to like him...

But SteveIL is a whole different kettle of fish. His smug pseudo-intelligent "analysis" and insulting projections of his own bile... it's just icky.

5:22 PM  
Anonymous SteveIL said...

First of all, as a card-carrying representative of the "angry left" I can pretty much guarantee there isn't a person alive on the LEFT who thinks negatively of a woman who gets ahead 'without a man'

Please please, show me a REAL quote of a left-leaning person who 'hates' successful women who did it all without a man.

Wow. Where in the world did you find that in what I said?

I know; rhetorical question. Since you won't answer it. Since you can't answer it. Because it isn't there.

Anyway, have fun children.

6:44 PM  
Blogger slag said...

Personally, I don't hate Sarah Palin. I loathe her. Does that help?

Really. It doesn't surprise me a bit that women would have a stronger negative reaction to Palin than men have. She's a woman trying to participate in and mask the destruction of women's rights. A sort of Uncle Tom for women, if you will. We should have a word for that.

That said, I really don't loathe Palin as a person. I couldn't care less about her person. I care about what she's trying to do to me, as a person. So, saying that I loathe her is really just a way of saying that I loathe what she's trying to do to me. I've never been sure if neocons have the capacity to make this particular distinction.

7:33 PM  
Anonymous Brian Egan said...

I think you forgot Nancy Pelosi AL. Talk about the flavor of the month to trash (my repub friend went off for about 3 mins yesterday as to how she was single handedly ruining the country).

SteveIL, while you may not hate left wingers, please do not "project" yourself onto your hating brothers and sisters on the right. We fully accept our haters on the left, because there is no honest way to refute their existence. It would be equally preposterous to claim, as you have, that absolutely NOONE on the right hates Michelle Obama or other liberals.

Furthermore, "As far as Michelle Obama, she was never taken out of context." Really? Not once ever? Never ever?

Give. Me. A. Break.*







* Preferably not a Kit Kat Bar

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if i do not agree with sarah palin what then? will she shoot me?

10:00 PM  
Blogger Toby said...

I think it is worth stressing that Barack Obama and Joe Biden have shown a lot of respect for Sarah Palin, and for John McCain. In fact, there is a good case for saying that they went too far.

We should also remember that Obama's kind gesture of calling for her family to be off limits was repaid by Palin in the form of a gratuitous, insulting attack on him and the people he tried to help as a young man.

If you compare the spouses of the candidates, you will find that Cindy McCain has more to hide than Michelle Obama (a past addiction to prescription medication, for one thing). Todd Palin was until recently a member of a crank secessionist party. When Obama called "Lay off my wife" back in May, he was signalling "Don't go there; you'll regret it." Both sides have laid off the spouses (and I hope the 537s follow suit).

On Palin's unpopularity, I think the mission she was given was always beyond her scope. She was supposed to be Hilary and Obama rolled into one. To the GOP, she was the fifth cavalry riding to the rescue of a beleaguered and visibly failing McCain campaign. The inflated expectations after her convention speech were never going to be met.

In order to succeed, she would need to be able to give a fresh speech of that convention standard at every public appearance, and be conversant with a large variety of topics in order to launch good attacks on the Democrats. Unfortunately for her and McCain, she just does not have that reach.

Her public persona at the ordinary political gatherings is barely average, and disappointing to the party faithful. Tired lines about hockey moms and community organizers soon pall. Even worse, the McCain campaign are so concerned about a possible gaffe on her part, they have not let her give an unscripted press-conference. Understandably annoyed, the media took to investigating her dubious history. At the last appearance where she took questions, the crowd had been screened to allow a safe audience only.

Meanwhile, the Troopergate stalling is a constant thorn in the side of the campaign. Picking a candidate who was the subject of an ethics investigation was not the brightest of McCain's ideas. She has acted like a dose of crack cocaine for his campaign - a quick high followed by the wrack of regret and withdrawal.

3:03 AM  
Anonymous RDM said...

The basic point here that needs to be made is that political pundits of all stripes seem to make a living by taking anecdotes and generalizing to the whole population. A friend saying "I hate her" about Palin somehow generalizes to all liberals. Well, while we are giving anecdotes, my conservative cousin recently had her Facebook status set to "Obama has no place in this country." No place in this country? You'd kick someone out because you don't agree with them?



These are only anecdotes. I can't believe that people get paid to churn these stupid essays out and pretend like they know something about the population of liberals and conservatives. Pundits are almost always wrong. I hope that at some point people wake up and stop listening to them, but that's never going to happen - especially because politicians do the same thing. ("Selma in Louisiana lost her job...blah blah").



SteveIL, since you seem to want to defend the essays, and you seem to have an understanding about what all liberals and all conservatives think, would you mind pointing me to the polling data you use?

4:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a white woman in her 50s, I "detest" her because, if elected, she will single-handedly set back any woman who ever attempts to break the glass ceiling legitimately by being qualified in her own right. After she thoroughly embarrasses the nation in the world's eyes, what man will look on any woman as anything other than a pair of boobs or a tool to get themselves elected?

7:46 AM  
Anonymous michael z said...

That sentence at the end of Nordinger's article says it all. Like most right-wingers, he confuses patriotism with nationalism and then gets all offended if people don't appreciate his "patriotism". Dude, nationalism is NOT a good thing - you would have thought that two world wars would be enough for us to learn that particular lesson, but it seems not for some people.

With regards to Palin specifically, I think Toby's comment here succinctly says everything that needs to be said.

7:54 AM  
Anonymous The Crafty Trilobite said...

Is it really so hard to understand why a certain segment of the population is so turned off by her? After all, she introduced herself to the country with a speech that--while well-delivered--was very mean-spirited and filled with cheap shots directed at her opponents (who had been nothing but respectful to her).

They don't notice that. It just is not there to them. I mentioned the cheap shots to two very nice, sweet Republicans at work, and they each looked startled and said that they didn't think she sounded mean.

And hey, compared to the bile that spews daily out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth, or the matter-of-fact assumption by beloved theocon preachers like Jerry Falwell that liberals are naturally evil, it's not mean. Mainstream conservative media and culture is such a sink of hatred that mere sniping like Palin's sounded to these folks like good-natured jokes about obvious truths. After all, Palin was smiling when she said them, and it's just so clearly true that, e.g., liberals are unpatriotic wimps, or that we despise small-town folks.

So I'm sure Nordlinger is honestly baffled at why such a good-natured person, who was so much nicer to us than we deserved, is not universally beloved.

Steveil, others here have explained why Palin is getting hit on motherhood -- short version, because she sold herself as Mother of The Year and is the standard-bearer for the party that keeps telling the rest of us how immoral, sinful, and anti-family we are.

Oh, and here's a clue: that's the kind of casual hate that we notice and you, apparently, don't. Unless it's about your own side.

But anyway, your little analysis has other problems too. Besides your spelling, I mean.

First, it's factually wrong. It took me about ten seconds to google up a minute-long video slur called "Is Michelle Obama A Bad Mother"? No, I'm not going to link it here, you go ahead and enjoy yourself. And of course there was Fox News's little "accidental" prime-time nationwide slur of her as a "baby mama" (a slang term for unwed mother, in case you've been living in a cave the last few years).

I'll grant you that the sh*t thrown at her is mostly of a different variety than what is thrown at Palin. But, second point, exactly why do you think it is better to be tagged as ugly, 'uppity' (by a Congressman, no less), 'elitist', America-hating, terrorist-loving, radical, bribe-taking, incompetent, and mean, than as a bad mom? Actually, lots more Americans lack some parenting skills than hate their country. With the unwed-marriage and divorce rate as high as it is among the Christers, you'd think they wouldn't be offended at that anymore.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous The Crafty Trilobite said...

Whoops, that was meant to read "unwed-motherhood" not "unwed marriage."

11:37 PM  
Blogger LongHairedWeirdo said...

“I am almost 60 and come from Massachusetts. In all my years, I have never seen anything like this, and don’t want to see it ever again. I have a friend who is both feminist and left-leaning. I asked her why they hate Palin so much. She said, ‘Because she’s had it all: family, career. And she did it without a man like Bill Clinton helping her. She did it on her own.’”

I suspect that the "friend" referenced above is one of those "best friends" that bigots have so many of. You know, "some of my best friends are (black/Hispanic/gay/whatever)"

9:32 PM  
Blogger LongHairedWeirdo said...

SteveIL:

I dislike Palin based upon her acceptance speech. She showed that she's a poison-mean and contemptuous person. Or, at least, that she's perfectly willing to play one on TV.

Now, I don't hate her at all, personally. But it's not like she didn't show a nasty side of herself, which opened her up to being hated. Add in stuff like billing rape victims for evidence collection, and a desire to overturn Roe vs. Wade, and you've got enough for some people to say such a thing.

Of course, folks should remember that hatred during political season can have a short half-life. Once she and McCain lose, the "hatred" folks have for her will pretty much vanish.

That's a huge difference between the Dems and the Reps, at the current moment.

9:41 PM  

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