Palin?
(updated below multiple times)
Several new outlets are reporting that McCain has selected Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. If true, it's kind of a weird pick. From a strategic standpoint, I suppose picking her does a couple things for John McCain. First, it's such a left-field pick that the press will be forced to devote a lot of coverage to it. Most people don't know who Palin is, so they can't just announce the pick and go back to talking about Obama's speech. By putting a woman on the ticket, McCain also keeps the Obama/Biden ticket from having sole claim to the "making history" argument. The Republicans will look less like the people standing athwart history yelling stop. And to the extent there are still Hillary voters who are looking for a reason to vote Republican, this may provide some cover.
All that said, Palin has less than two years of experience in office. She's only 44. To the extent the Republican party plans to attack Obama for his lack of experience--and it sure seems like that's their principal attack--Palin clearly undermines that strategy. McCain is 72, and he's picking someone who could, at any moment, become president. Yet Palin is younger and far less experienced than Obama. She has no foreign policy experience at all. She's also totally untested on the national stage.
We'll see how this plays out, but it strikes me as being too clever by half.
UPDATE: Here's a pretty safe prediction. The very same people who absolutely flipped out when Obama was supposedly "playing the race card" are going to "play the gender card" at every opportunity and claim that any criticism of Palin is sexist. It won't take long, and when it happens, I think my head is going to explode.
UPDATE II: I'm not sure that Palin will be able to peel away as many female Democrats as Republicans are hoping, but based on my brief perusal of the right-wing blogosphere, most conservatives seem pretty psyched about the pick. So picking her may help close the enthusiasm gap and motivate Republican voters, especially the religious right, to show up at the polls. In that sense, it may be a smart pick.
UPDATE III: The more I think about this pick, the less sure I am how it will play out. The Democrats are obviously going to have to be careful how they attack her. The right wing blogs are already screaming "sexism" without any provocation (for all their complaining, it's amazing how willing they are to play the victim card when they have the opportunity). And while Palin's extreme lack of experience is obviously a liability, the Democrats have to be careful how they approach it. Obviously the Obama campaign doesn't want this election to be about experience. Palin's inexperience should only be used as a rebuttal point, a way of neutralizing Republican attacks on Obama and highlighting the McCain campaign's obvious hypocrisy on this point. To the extent any affirmative criticism is attempted, it should focus on her "knowledge" not her "experience." The reality is that Palin has never had to think about foreign policy issues. She's a blank slate. Obama, by contrast, is incredibly knowledgeable about foreign policy and has been grappling with these issues publicly for many years now.
The more I think about it, the more I think Palin is a potentially very savvy pick by McCain. Whether she's an asset or a flop, however, is going to depend on how she performs now that the spotlight is on her. Will she make any gaffes? Are there skeletons in her closet? How will she do on Meet the Press and similar venues? Those are the big open questions at this point.
UPDATE IV: On the other hand, I have a feeling this pick many come across as very "gimmicky" to a lot voters. It's not hard to see what McCain is doing here. Even people who haven't been paying much attention to politics know that Hillary Clinton lost a hard fought race and that McCain is trying to woo some of her disgruntled female supporters. Voters may well see this pick as a transparent attempt to appeal to identity politics. After all, can anyone honestly assert that McCain would have considered offering the VP slot to a male governor with the same meagre record? And I think that underscores why this might not go over as well with female voters as the McCain campaign hopes. There are plenty of very experienced female politicians out there to choose from, both Republican and Democrat. But McCain chose the young, inexperienced former beauty pageant contestant. And remember, McCain is a guy who dumped his first wife (who stood by him throughout his captivity) for a much younger (and richer) former beauty pageant contestant. That may not play too well with many women, particularly the ones who feel the more qualified Clinton got passed over for the more inexperienced Obama.
UPDATE V: After talking to people around the office, I'm less convinced that this was a smart choice by McCain. The overwhelming first impression seems to be that this is a transparently political pick, that McCain obviously is choosing someone who he thinks can get him elected, not someone who he thinks will help him govern. It's a cynical, strategic choice, not a responsible, adult one. He chose a trophy running mate, not a partner.
Several new outlets are reporting that McCain has selected Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. If true, it's kind of a weird pick. From a strategic standpoint, I suppose picking her does a couple things for John McCain. First, it's such a left-field pick that the press will be forced to devote a lot of coverage to it. Most people don't know who Palin is, so they can't just announce the pick and go back to talking about Obama's speech. By putting a woman on the ticket, McCain also keeps the Obama/Biden ticket from having sole claim to the "making history" argument. The Republicans will look less like the people standing athwart history yelling stop. And to the extent there are still Hillary voters who are looking for a reason to vote Republican, this may provide some cover.
All that said, Palin has less than two years of experience in office. She's only 44. To the extent the Republican party plans to attack Obama for his lack of experience--and it sure seems like that's their principal attack--Palin clearly undermines that strategy. McCain is 72, and he's picking someone who could, at any moment, become president. Yet Palin is younger and far less experienced than Obama. She has no foreign policy experience at all. She's also totally untested on the national stage.
We'll see how this plays out, but it strikes me as being too clever by half.
UPDATE: Here's a pretty safe prediction. The very same people who absolutely flipped out when Obama was supposedly "playing the race card" are going to "play the gender card" at every opportunity and claim that any criticism of Palin is sexist. It won't take long, and when it happens, I think my head is going to explode.
UPDATE II: I'm not sure that Palin will be able to peel away as many female Democrats as Republicans are hoping, but based on my brief perusal of the right-wing blogosphere, most conservatives seem pretty psyched about the pick. So picking her may help close the enthusiasm gap and motivate Republican voters, especially the religious right, to show up at the polls. In that sense, it may be a smart pick.
UPDATE III: The more I think about this pick, the less sure I am how it will play out. The Democrats are obviously going to have to be careful how they attack her. The right wing blogs are already screaming "sexism" without any provocation (for all their complaining, it's amazing how willing they are to play the victim card when they have the opportunity). And while Palin's extreme lack of experience is obviously a liability, the Democrats have to be careful how they approach it. Obviously the Obama campaign doesn't want this election to be about experience. Palin's inexperience should only be used as a rebuttal point, a way of neutralizing Republican attacks on Obama and highlighting the McCain campaign's obvious hypocrisy on this point. To the extent any affirmative criticism is attempted, it should focus on her "knowledge" not her "experience." The reality is that Palin has never had to think about foreign policy issues. She's a blank slate. Obama, by contrast, is incredibly knowledgeable about foreign policy and has been grappling with these issues publicly for many years now.
The more I think about it, the more I think Palin is a potentially very savvy pick by McCain. Whether she's an asset or a flop, however, is going to depend on how she performs now that the spotlight is on her. Will she make any gaffes? Are there skeletons in her closet? How will she do on Meet the Press and similar venues? Those are the big open questions at this point.
UPDATE IV: On the other hand, I have a feeling this pick many come across as very "gimmicky" to a lot voters. It's not hard to see what McCain is doing here. Even people who haven't been paying much attention to politics know that Hillary Clinton lost a hard fought race and that McCain is trying to woo some of her disgruntled female supporters. Voters may well see this pick as a transparent attempt to appeal to identity politics. After all, can anyone honestly assert that McCain would have considered offering the VP slot to a male governor with the same meagre record? And I think that underscores why this might not go over as well with female voters as the McCain campaign hopes. There are plenty of very experienced female politicians out there to choose from, both Republican and Democrat. But McCain chose the young, inexperienced former beauty pageant contestant. And remember, McCain is a guy who dumped his first wife (who stood by him throughout his captivity) for a much younger (and richer) former beauty pageant contestant. That may not play too well with many women, particularly the ones who feel the more qualified Clinton got passed over for the more inexperienced Obama.
UPDATE V: After talking to people around the office, I'm less convinced that this was a smart choice by McCain. The overwhelming first impression seems to be that this is a transparently political pick, that McCain obviously is choosing someone who he thinks can get him elected, not someone who he thinks will help him govern. It's a cynical, strategic choice, not a responsible, adult one. He chose a trophy running mate, not a partner.



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It is Palin. Brave, game changing pick! I love it.
That should step on Obama's bounce.
An act of desperation. A "hail, Sarah" play, demonstrating that the McCain campaign hopes the election this year will be all about identity politics.
I doubt this will resonate -- and it won't help him in the electoral college, since Alaska was already going to go for the GOP.
It's the kind of showy but superficial move we've come to expect from McCain.
An Obama supporter talking about being showy and superficial?
That's ironic.
VC,
Since Palin was mayor of a town of 6000 a couple of years ago, no doubt her position on Iraq is unknown to you. I doubt her position on anything at all is known to you, in fact, yet you are all for her election to a position a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Yet you have the nerve to accuse someone of being superficial.
I think Republican's really should consider studying the Canadian Conservative movement closely. It's a lesson in how to lose elections over and over and over and over again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Campbell
The 44 year old mayor of an Alaskan fishing village makes a great VP candidate for a 72 year old cancer survivor.
I've already witnessed conservative blog comments pre-accusing Dems of suggesting that since Palin is a woman she should stay closer to home/the kitchen.
Project much?
"The very same people who absolutely flipped out when Obama was supposedly "playing the race card" are going to "play the gender card" at every opportunity and claim that any criticism of Palin is sexist. It won't take long,"
I go for Saturday, August 30,2008, @ 9 am edt
She has done more than 99% of people have in this country.
She has great accomplishments, a great life story, a solid conservative record.
To belittle her is to belittle all women.
Are you being sarcastic, VC? If not, thanks for proving my point.
That was tongue-in-cheek, A.L.
I don't stoop so low to use identity politics like the left does so often.
Oh well, virginia conservative just did what you said,barkleyg. Typical Republican. I'm a woman. My ability to reproduce does NOT qualify me to talk to the world's leaders. Neither does having an oilman as a husband qualify me to set the energy policy of a nation. Neither does winning a beauty contest qualify me for being a heartbeat away from the Presidency of a 72-year-old man. This even scares my 91-year old father.
That being said, anonymous, I would imagine that you believe that none of those things would necessarily DISQUALIFY you, either.
Experience, on the other hand, appears to weigh heavy on the Republican mind. Particularly Obama's experience which is certainly more experience than GWB brought with him from Austin to DC.
If Obama isn't experienced enough for the job, can anyone argue that Palin is?
Palin isn't on the top of the ticket, Obama is.
I remember the last time you guys went after a Republican VP. It was in 1988. Remind me again, how'd that turn out for you?
hehe - this is great - already:
"Dems want to run on ageism and sexism. Offend the two largest segments of the population. Brilliant strategery."
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2008/08/traditional-fri.html#comment-128285342
Classic wingnut logic at work!
Palin isn't on the top of the ticket, Obama is.
Oh, well, yeah - I guess if you want to put it that way, you're totally right...
So VP choice is now simultaneously of paramount importance AND not important whatsoever?
Huh?!
Listen - if she can smoke bin Laden out of his cave half as well as she can smoke salmon, then she's already operating a level superior to the current Republican president.
Of course it doesn't DISQUALIFY me. What disqualifies me is the fact that I have NO International experience. Obama is in the Senate of the United States. I believe that the Senate votes on issues of war and peace which might result in sending my grandchildren to die in a foreign land. Which fishing village in Alaska voted to send our young people to war?
Obama was coming up in the polls. Now, BAM! Cut right off!
This makes Biden look like the boring, uninspired choice he is.
This is a comment left at TNR. It sums it up:
"When I was 14 and lived in St. Paul Minnesota, I was thrilled to see my favorite presidential candidate, who was less exciting than his opponent and facing a lot of headwinds in the race that year, pick a relatively unknown woman as his running mate to generate excitement about his candidacy, and announce his choice in my city..."
Didn't work with Ferraro; won't work now.
I'll take boring over dry-drunk C-student failed businessman cowboy ANYDAY!
I agree with AL's most updated comments. Based on the reaction of the women in my house, she could be an effective pick. But obviously there will be a lot of investigation of her background, as well as testing of her ability to cope on a national stage.
Also, don't discount the possibility of annoyed men flocking to Obama.
Highlights yet again McCain's hypocrisy. Obama too inexperienced for President? We see now how serious McCain is that complaint. Elderly man who could legitimately die in office - your chosen successor is WHO? Ok fine. So shut the F up about Obama's inexperience. You seem to have torpedoed your chief argument, McCain. And you could have picked Kay B. Hutchinson, who actually has some experience. But couldn't resist trading up to a younger model eh? I see a pattern.
Oh listen to her going on about "Hillary cracked the glass ceiling and the women of America aren't done yet!" Does McCain think females supported Hillary JUST BECAUSE SHE WAS A WOMAN? Um, no. There's that liberal vs. conservative thing too. McCain/Palin must think women are stupid. Pathetic appeal - you'd have thought they'd just let it be unspoken. To actually lead out with it is so insulting to womens' intelligence.
"Also, don't discount the possibility of annoyed men flocking to Obama."
Don't discount the possibility of men flocking to McCain/Palin because she is so attractive.
At a time when science needs to be emphasized and supported to break our addiction to foreign oil, McCain chooses a creationist? Here's the Creationist science curriculum in a nutshell.
GOD CREATED THE WORLD. THE END
Oh yeh, Palin's whole abuse of power theme is so attractive. Prototypical Republican above-the-law mindset. McCain certainly shows great wisdom - not only in the experience of his potential successor, but also in picking someone who is under legislative investigation.
Now that she's The Pick, and getting a ton of attention, I must note the absence in all reports today (that I've read) about Palin's own ethics scandal in Alaska.
From August 14 this year:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gWi6yTVfPyJeiTBsQ33SSUiobt8wD92I9NIO0
Firing the guy who refuses your command to fire your sister's ex-husband (after a "messy divorce") seems shady to me.
But I guess I'm not a Republican with blinders on.
The standards that the Village hold Democratic candidates to just do not apply to those on the other side of the aisle.
(Great blog AL!)
McCain: Obama is too inexperienced, not ready to lead.
Obama: John, you don't really think that! Your VP pick shows us how serious you are about that argument. You're the biggest hypocrite in American politics. (Chuckles, shaking head)
McCain: Palin isn't on top of the ticket - but you are!
Obama: Are you going to live forever John? You're 72 years old, and if it wasn't an issue before, your VP pick made it an issue.
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In one stroke of genius, McCain highlights his age problem and destroys his "inexperience" attack. And, bonus, highlights the Republicans' abuse of power theme. And, double bonus, insults Democratic women by suggesting they're gender-lemmings.
That's the kind of thoughtful leadership and sound judgment this country needs!!!
I guess they felt like they needed a celebrity of their own.
Even rather dim men tend to be able to distinguish erection-inducing and election-inducing attractiveness, so I doubt that this will turn out to be a huge draw.
Now, it may turn out that Palin displays amazing campaigning ability, and is able to connect with the electorate -- but, if so, that ability has not been on display. She was elected because, in the amazingly corrupt Alaska GOP, she showed principles.
While that's a standout feature in Alaska GOP politics -- which is to say Alaska politics -- of the last generation, it's not likely to impress most of us, who tend to expect our politicians to show principle as a matter of course.
We should have picked Hillary. The whole experience thing is wiped out by the fact that Palin is second on McCains ticket and she has more executive experience as Governor of Alaska and Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard than Obama has (who has never ran a thing and only has two year in the senate) and he is number one on his ticket. Hillary would have been wiping McCain out right now.
An absolute desperation on McCain's part. He waited who Obama choose as his running mate. Because Obama chose Biden and not Hillary, a woman who is young but has the oil drilling pulse was McCain's shoe in. Now, McCain is not in all good shakes in health. So, it should be a worry for the GOP should anything happen to McCain since Palin lack experience.
But, it is interesting that McCain chooses Palin when she herself is under investigation. So, the state of Alaska currently is dealing with a dark cloud of scandals from Ted Stevens, Ben Stevens, and Don Young.
As far as what Obama-Biden strategy will be? I don't think they will attack Palin's gender. But, their secret weapon are their wives: Michelle and Jill. Jill Biden brings to table that she became an instant mother of Biden's two young sons after Biden's first wife and daughter died in that cat accident in 1972. Jill Biden gave up her career in teaching to raise both Biden's sons and their daughter. She is an educator with two PHD's. Obama's wife had a career and now is mother to her two daughters. So, there is alot more that Obama camp to bring to the table in ammuniation to McCain's pick other than attacking her gender.
Finally, two key elements that I think Obama-Biden camp will be a driving force against McCain-Palin: Roe vs. Wade [Palin is anti-choice and is a member of an “anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.”] and foreign policy.
The base is loving it. The base is mobilized, and it will defeat Obama-Biden.
This pick shows Biden for the boring, uninspired pick he is will nabbing Hillary supporters (especially the blue collar white working class women).
BTW, did someone give a speech last night? I think everyone has forgotten already!
Virginia,
I think we'll have to wait for more than 6 hours before we can be sure that the "base" is energized. For all we know, this is merely a twitch or spasm, soon to be followed by the onset of rigor mortis.
Perhaps this has managed to reduce the effect of Obama's acceptance speech. We won't know until the end of the current news cycle. Palin's speeches won't be worth reading on their own like Obama's are, though.
But by all means, carry on your chortling. Given your short-term memory problems, I'm sure you'll have forgotten in a week or two when this roll of the dice turns out to have been snake eyes.
Visit any conservative blog. Look at the conservative pundits. Rush Limbaugh. Sean Hannity. Pro lifers. Fiscal Cons. Libertarians. They're all THRILLED!
Virginia,
And how many votes is that? Even assuming that the right wing is the collection of lemmings (get it?) you portray, the people you mention were all oversold on McCain yesterday. The people you need to impress, independents or right-leaning Democrats, aren't likely to be as positive about this choice.
Sadly -- for your side -- a VP candidate doesn't bring out the base. It may tickle them, and make their leg twitch, but it won't make them crawl over broken glass to vote.
c2h50h-
It also brings in LOTS of Hillary supporters. The head of PUMA was just on MSNBC and said what a great pick it was, and how it outs Howard Dean and Barack Obama as sexists who stole the nomination from Hillary.
The scab of your primary has been ripped off just when you thought it was gone. Have fun with that!
Virginia,
You are living proof of the old saying, "ignorance is bliss." An updated phrase, more appropriate for you, might be "delusion brings joy."
I bet you McCain/Palin is at at least 50% middle of next week. The best you can hope for now is a tie.
We'll all be looking forward to the vetting process through which Palin's husband - a commercial fisherman - will be drawn. Don't think for a minute that he won't receive the same level of scrutiny that Michelle Obama was subjected to.
I'm sure that he's never worked with or met with or befriended anyone with any skeletons in their closets.
From looking into Palin's being investigated for her attempts to have her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, using her clout as governor, well, Palin invoked the Alaska version of executive privilege to withhold emails dealing with the case.
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8802680
Palin sounds like a Dick Cheney in a dress.
Palin believes your and my daughters should be subjected to nine months and a lifetime to bear and have her rapist's child. What a wonderful mother for wishing THAT on her child. By the way, incestuous relationships that produce pregnancies --- ditto.
She carried a disabled baby to term.
She has cred on being pro life that many don't.
Yes and I wonder if she'll avail herself of all the Democratic "programs" that she rails against as "pork" to help with that child's extraordinary needs. Probably, because that's the hypocrisy of Republicans.
I bore a child wih Downs Syndrome. I never realized that made me eligible to be a good candidate for VP. I was also president of my synagogue and had to lead and inspire confidence among many individuals with conflicting opinions. I think this gives me solid credentials to run for commander-in-chief in 2016--after Obama's second term!
I love how Virginia Conservative both decries sexism and explains how Republican men will flock to her because of her looks. Like the foundations of racism, the complexities of sexism are truly foreign to neocons. Reading these comments is similar to watching a dog trying to play the piano.
I'm with whatsyourevidence all the way. McCain just zapped the batteries out on his most popular attacks against Obama -- experience and judgment. Even if McCain wanted to make a political statement with a female veep, he had quite a few more to choose from that could actually help augment his ticket. Palin has a checkered past and poor credentials, two things that would be very hard to defend come serious debate time over the next couple of months. Now that the drama of Clinton's support has passed the DNC, I'm ready to see some Republicans get steamrolled.
For some reason most of the media discussion focuses upon Palin's pregnant unwed daughter or on Palin's gender. These are all pressing concerns -- if she were competing to be a guest on the Dr. Phil show!!! But unfortunately we're talking about her possibly becoming second in command of our country!
Palin for VP?
Shouldn't we instead be focusing on whether she has the qualifications necessary to possibly govern our country? Or even what McCain's selecting her over all possible alternatives says about his judgement?
To whom much is given, much is expected. And I don't expect much out of Palin as a VP given her questionable track record as a mayor and governor.
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