Friday, June 13, 2008

McCain Pivots on Guantanamo

The news about Tim Russert is just too sad and I don't have anything original or insightful to say about it, so I'm going to write about something else that isn't likely to get the attention it deserves this weekend, namely, John McCain's decision to pivot wildly on the issue of Guantanamo Bay and go nuclear on the Supreme Court.

Yesterday, McCain gave a cautious, non-headline grabbing response to the Supreme Court's decision. He expressed some concern about the decision, but ended his remarks with this:
But it is a decision that the Supreme Court has made. Now we need to move forward. As you know I always favored closing Guantanamo Bay and I still think we ought to do that.
Sounds reasonable. But today McCain sounded a little, um, different:
The United States Supreme Court yesterday rendered a decision which I think is one of the worst decisions in the history of this country. Sen. Graham and Sen. Lieberman and I had worked very hard to make sure that we didn't torture any prisoners, that we didn't mistreat them, that we abided by the Geneva Conventions, which applies to all prisoners. But we also made it perfectly clear, and I won't go through all the legislation we passed, and the prohibition against torture, but we made it very clear that these are enemy combatants, these are people who are not citizens, they do not and never have been given the rights that citizens of this country have. And my friends there are some bad people down there. There are some bad people. So now what are we going to do. We are now going to have the courts flooded with so-called, quote, Habeas Corpus suits against the government, whether it be about the diet, whether it be about the reading material. And we are going to be bollixed up in a way that is terribly unfortunate, because we need to go ahead and adjudicate these cases. By the way, 30 of the people who have already been released from Guantanamo Bay have already tried to attack America again, one of them just a couple weeks ago, a suicide bomber in Iraq. Our first obligation is the safety and security of this nation, and the men and women who defend it. This decision will harm our ability to do that.
This is, to put it mildly, a whole lot of nonsense. First, the Court did not in any way hold that the Guantanamo detainees have "the rights that citizens of this country have." All it held was that they have the basic human right of habeas corpus, i.e., the right to challenge the basis of their detention before a neutral fact-finder. This most fundamental of human rights has long been held to apply to non-citizens, and it is not even remotely comparable to the constellation of rights and procedural safeguards granted to U.S. citizens by other sections of the Constitution.

Moreover, the suggestion that this ruling will somehow cause our court system to be deluged with frivolous lawsuits is preposterous on its face. According to the Department of Defense, there are only 270 detainees currently held at Guantanamo. Even if every one of them sought habeas relief, that would represent an utterly insignificant fraction of the overall federal docket. Moreover, these detainees would only be able to challenge the basis of their detention (i.e. whether they are, in fact, terrorists), not the kind of food or reading material they're given.

McCain knows all this. In fact, he's been saying for some time now that he wants to close Guantanamo and move all the detainees to Fort Leavenworth, a place that even the Bush Administration would have to concede is within U.S. sovereign territory.

But McCain has clearly made a strategic choice. He's decided that the key to winning in November is to play the terrorism card once more and try to convince people that his Democratic opponent is somehow in favor of bestowing all sorts of fancy rights on terrorists and/or just letting them all go. And in order to make that insultingly stupid argument, he's willing to abandon every sensible position he's ever taken on this subject.

It's strange. Flip-floppery is common in presidential politics, but typically candidates flip toward the center after flopping toward the right or left in the primary campaign. On issue after issue, however, John McCain has moved to the right over the past few months. He's becoming more insane on tax issues and more authoritarian on issues of civil liberties. I've never seen that before. I'm hopeful that it's a sign of weakness.
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14 Comments:

Blogger John said...

I personally liked Tim Russert and am very sorry for his loved ones loss.

And though 58 is too young, I personally wouldn't mind checking out just as he did.

Rest in Peace.

12:55 AM  
Anonymous Casual Observer said...

AL,

It may perhaps also be due to the campaign having a chance to read the decision, or should I say, the dissenting opinions. Remember, on the first day he had admitted to not having had the chance to read it yet.

Given McCain is on the record as favoring SC Justices like Scalia and Roberts, and wants more of them, my guess is that he felt constrained to agree with their conservative/authoritarian dissent. He could not very well endorse them, but disagree with them. While I believe McCain himself is a closet authoritarian, his own personal opinion is less important, imo, than the constraints binding him to the wackjob right.

In this respect McCain is like the dead Capt. Ahab, lashed to Moby Dick's side, but still beckoning his crew on. Come Nov., he'll drop below the waves.

8:17 AM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

This is yet another indication, as if we needed any, that the GOP, as currently situated, is desperately trying to hold on to the only base it still can count on: the RWA followers. This move by McCain is nothing but a transparent pander to the authoritarian followers who long for an end to their long nightmare of freedom for everyone in the USA.

Their only remaining hope is for some means to stoke the fires of fear and somehow get close enough to manipulate the election.

8:45 AM  
Blogger Michael said...

A.L., et al,

This question is not rhetorical: How is that John McCain is not 30 points back in the polls? (and "polls don't mean anything" is not an answer.)

The 'base' alone cannot account for his numbers, no?

7:38 PM  
Blogger MLS said...

Here is another non-rhetorical question. Today I saw Obama “explaining” to his audience how the Supreme Court’s decision was consistent with the precedent established at Nuremberg that even the most heinous war criminals are entitled to their day in court. I couldn’t quite follow this reasoning. I don’t recall that Nazis were allowed access to US courts. They were given a trial before tribunals which (including as they did Soviet judges) surely were not more impartial than the military commissions set up to try the Gitmo detainees.

Seeing as how I am not a constitutional law professor and didn’t graduate summa cum laude from Harvard Law School, I must be missing something. Maybe you can explain it to me.

8:57 PM  
Blogger send in the frowns said...

dear MLS,

the ruling on this matter is consistent with the basic fundamental values of American and general human decency.

specifically, the Supreme Court recognises the existence of universal and inaliable human rights, such as that of habeas corpus. the ruling does not demand a hearing in a US court for any human being anywhere; but if an individual is under US control or jurisdiction and there are no mechanisms in place to adequately substitute for the right of habeas corpus (as the Supreme Court recognises that the kangaroo court 'tribunals' established under the Military Commissions Act do not), they are entitled to their day in a US court, insofar as such a court is the only venue in which a fair and balanced hearing might reasonably be expected to occur.

the nuremberg trials took place under the joint jurisdiction of the Allied Powers, as did the execution or incarceration of those convicted.

do you understand now?

11:32 PM  
Blogger MLS said...

Send in the frowns

Sure, I understand. What you are saying is that Nuremberg has nothing to do with the Supreme Court's decision. But Obama says it does, so you must be wrong.

6:32 AM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

MLS,

I am neither a constitutional law expert nor even a lawyer, but as I understood Obama's remarks, he meant that those accused in Nuremberg were given the right in open court to challenge the evidence against them. This has led to the widely-held perception, across the world, that the Nuremberg trials were fair.

How many people think the proceedings at Gitmo will be perceived as fair?

7:33 AM  
Blogger A.L. said...

MLS, C2 is right. Obama wasn't making a legal argument. He was explaining to a lay audience that there was nothing unusual about the Supreme Court's opinion, that even the most heinous war criminals of all time (the nazis) were given a chance to challenge the factual basis of their detention.

10:10 AM  
Blogger MLS said...

C2H50H and AL - I take your point. However, you would have to concede, I think, that the “lay audience” would naturally have interpreted Obama’s remarks to mean that (1) the Nuremberg defendants were given “a day in court” (ie, access to US courts) and (2) the Nuremberg trials were more fair in some fundamental way than the military commissions. The first point is false, while the second is at best debatable.

You are right that there is a difference in the perceived international legitimacy of the Nuremberg trials versus the military commissions. This difference is not based on the procedural niceties of the tribunals, though, but rather on the very different international political situations that pertain. It is arguable that providing better treatment for detainees will improve America’s international standing. But balancing the national security benefits of the Gitmo system with the foreign relations costs is a task for elected policymakers, not the Supreme Court.

Which is why there is no inconsistency between McCain’s proposal to close Gitmo and his criticism of the Supreme Court’s decision.

12:57 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

MLS,

No, I do not concede the "day in court" would be taken by the average citizen as referring specifically to the US Courts. I certainly didn't take it that way.

The second point is not debatable, not in any reasonable sense. When the process does not include the right to confront one's accusers, when the courts appear to be stacked with those who will favor the prosecution, and when the proceedings are not open, it cannot be compared with the proceedings of any real court.

I don't understand why you cannot see that the perceptions are profoundly affected by the obvious secrecy, demonstrable lies, and continually underhanded operations of the Cheney/Bush administration, not by "different international political situations that pertain."

See, there are these long-established rules for fair treatment, and Gitmo detentions violate them in almost everybody's eyes.

If it is the executive branch's prerogative to determine courts and process, then this is a dictatorship.

McCain's position is only discernible moment-to-moment. Once it was that the President isn't above the law, but now it's indistinguishable from that of Cheney/Bush. In that sense, it's consistent: since the President interprets the law as he sees fit, he is unconstrained by what SCOTUS might say. I don't find that consistent with the Constitution, but that's just me -- and a majority of the country.

2:18 PM  
Blogger Cappy said...

There is no denying the liberal interest in rights for terrorists, as opposed to, say, those in the USA critical of liberal judges. Combined with the extreme liberal compassion for the criminal at the local level, I find the prospect of an Obama presidency chilling.

3:24 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

Cappy,

Liberals have an interest in rights for everyone, until they have had their due process. "Extreme liberal compassion for the criminal at the local level" -- care to give an example, as opposed to pulling crap like that out of your rear orifice?

It's definitely true that an Obama Presidency is a chilling prospect for an RWA personality. Fear is central to the authoritarian mindset.

3:43 PM  
Blogger --spared-- said...

I consider myself the epitome of a lay person - no background in law, but someone who has followed this issue with interest. There are a lot of people who have quietly awaited the Supreme Court to make a decision and there are plenty of pleased Americans who feel the SC came through on behalf of the Constitution and the people it is meant to protect.

I understood Obama's comments to mean that those tried in Nuremberg (a group of people accused of crimes in a comparable set of horrific circumstances) had their day in court. And... they had that right, why wouldn't those in GB?

Obama was not my first choice - I feel he is too green, he's a great orator but hardly has the stomach to withstand challenges (the debates showed us that)and his wife annoys me to no end. But I think what is more chilling than an Obama presidency is the alternative (a McCain presidency). I think we've had 8 years of a low bar. In so many ways, McCain is hardly the candidate to get it back up.

7:51 PM  

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