Saturday, April 12, 2008

The Difference Between Worrying About Right-Wing Smears and Validating Them

Via John Cole, I see that Clinton surrogate Evan Bayh had this to say today about Obama's 'bitter' comment:
“I think it’s a real potential political problem and it’s something for superdelegates and voters to think about,” said Bayh, who was made available to reporters by the Clinton campaign to speak about the controversy.

“The far right wing has a very good track record of using things like this relentlessly against our candidates, whether its Al Gore or John Kerry,” Bayh said, “I’m afraid this is the kind of fodder they might use to harm him.”
This is the classic 'concern troll' type of argument, but it's fair enough. Bayh is undoubtedly right that Republicans will attempt to paint Obama as some sort of effete, elitist snob who is out of touch with regular folk, and they will cite his recent comments as evidence of this. They're already doing it.

But it's important to remember that they will do this with whomever the nominee turns out to be, and they will have no problem finding things to cite as evidence. They do it every single election cycle.

The problem is that Hillary Clinton, the person Evan Bayh is out stumping for, isn't just expressing concern that Republicans will use Obama's comments to attack him unfairly. If that's all she was doing, I wouldn't really have any problem with it. Instead, she's explicitly arguing that Obama is in fact an elitist, out-of-touch snob.

Yesterday she said (referring to Obama): "Pennsylvanians don’t need a president who looks down on them."

In case that wasn't clear enough, today she said: "Senator Obama's remarks are elitist, and they are out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."

That's not just concern trolling. That's flat out validation of the worst Republican-created stereotypes about Democrats. It's hard for me to imagine anything she could say that is more myopic and reckless. Clinton has gone way too far on this one.

UPDATE: Take a look at this mailer from the Clinton campaign. I repeat: this is an incredibly destructive way to campaign against a person who will very likely be the Democratic nominee. Not only is the Clinton campaign completely twisting what Obama said and trying to put the worst possible spin on it, they are doing it in exactly the same way Republicans are and validating all sorts of awful Republican stereotypes. There's a line that you shouldn't cross in primary campaigns, and this well over it.
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19 Comments:

Blogger send in the frowns said...

what does she care. if she doesnt get to play, well gee willickers she's just gonna stomp on the ball and go home. classic spoiler tactics. whether it is a part of an explicit strategy (surely she sees that she's lost) or an expression of her underlying character is an open question.

9:29 PM  
Blogger Hume's Ghost said...

I was getting ready to post something tommorrow about how Hillary's failure to challenge noise machine smears should disqualify her from consideration for president.

Democrats need to start beating up on this tired GOP tactic - calling them out on it every time.

For Clinton to attempt to capitalize on this or the Wright faux controversy without attacking the noise machine to get the nomination ... it a pyhrric victory because those tactics are going to be used on her.

You don't "triangulate" extreme partisan anti-democratic ideology. You challenge it or you "cede the [neural] networks" in the words of Emory psychologist Drew Westen to your opponents who thus get to set the terms of political discourse.

And then you lose.

1:01 AM  
Anonymous casual observer said...

I'm not at all sure this "crosses the line". "The line" is located in different places, depending on who's looking at it.

Clinton has yet to concede. So long as that is the case--so long as she believes that somehow she can win, she is going to attack Obama whenever she can. He gave her an opening, she took it.

Personally, I am sick to death of this Bataan Death March of a primary season, with its inane blather, fluffy coverage, and general silliness. This is not just a figure of speech. I am literally becoming nauseated by this. End it.

9:32 AM  
Blogger Boulder Sue said...

As a granchild of immigrants who worked in the steel mills along the Ohio River near wheelin and Pittsburgh during the Depression, I think my my forebears would have recognized themselves in Barack's comments. The Church, family and ethnic group was what they clung to. Those and FRD, who recognized their plights and said so, but offered hope for better things to come. Of course they were bitter! They had come here for the American dream which was eluding them big time! They just wouldn't have accepted the comments too well from a Black man. Color, ethnicity and religion designated who was "us" and who was "them" when it cam to competeing for a few hours of work at the mill. Compare Hillary's childhood to Barack's. Then decide who is out of touch. I'm not. I'full of their stories, and they aren't Hillary's story.

12:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

frankly, every time obama gets snared in one of these bullshit "controversies", he comes out looking better for it.

just as when he wins, it plays into the argument for his own popularity, so when his opponents attack him with petty and opportunistic smears, it validates hisargument that its time for these silly people and their silly governing style to go.

12:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quite frankly, your complaint is rich, since your candidate, and his supporters, are famous for using GOP talking points against Clinton.

If Obama can use Harry & Louise style attacks on her health care, which he has, and if Obama can send out mailers that state she claimed NAFTA would be a "boon" which she never said, then she is fully justified in using his missteps to highlight his flaws. It's politics, not beanbag. Apparently, it's fine if Obama does it; when Clinton counters, not so much. In fact, the whining becomes deafening.

Part of Obama's statement was to compare and link the Clinton economy with the Bush economy. Clinton added 22 million jobs in an 8-year expansion. That comparison was and is complete b/s.

Day after day, in every way, Obama shows that he is the same ol' same ol' and extremely susceptible to the Republican smear machine. Already, polls show McCain gaining more on Obama

...Republican Sen. John McCain has erased Sen. Barack Obama's 10-point advantage in a head-to-head matchup, leaving him essentially tied with both Democratic candidates in an Associated Press-Ipsos national poll released Thursday....

Mike

5:54 PM  
Blogger J said...

So we've got RW talking points and appearances on Limbaugh & Fox, with Scaife, & use of Drudge.


Seems that the Clintons' are part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy now.

7:40 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

Roughly sixty million Democrats voted in the 2004 presidential election, and roughly that number will likely vote in the next one. The very brightest of them--perhaps one or two million--now recognize the stark horror with which they are faced.

It is now a certainty that Barack Obama cannot and will not be elected to the presidency--he himself has assured us of that, without a single right-wing attack having been made. The Clintons, the mainstream media and the blogs have done the job, and they have done so simply by allowing us to learn a bit more about who this man really is. The more we learn, the less attractive and genuine he is revealed to be. There is the chilling prospect of a McGovern-style rout in the Fall.

But what is the alternative? Although Hillary might fare better, she will undoubtedly lose as well, and in any event we are long past the point where she can become the nominee without the entire African-American bloc believing that the nomination has been stolen from their man. Do not expect them to go to the polls en masse to vote for Hillary Clinton.

How sad it must be to reflect on how hopeful things looked such a short time ago. Now the savviest among the Dems know what none of them dares to say: Obama cannot connect with "real" Americans, and will be quite roundly trounced in November. But those same savants know there is no way out.

It's the chickens of forty years' worth of identity politics coming home to roost. You live by the sword, and you die by the sword.

10:10 PM  
Blogger priscianus jr said...

Cheer up, Neutral. In the end, we're all dead anyway. And thanks for sharing.
For what it's worth, my prediction is that Obama will wipe the floor with McCain.

11:17 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

Shorter Neutral: "I'm overcome by schadenfreude."

Schadenfreude is a sad thing to see, but misplaced schadenfreude is downright pathetic.

What neutral has captured is the essence of right-wing thinking: seize on a triviality, hyperventilate, and then declare the issue "settled."

Meanwhile, the vast preponderance of voters, who aren't nearly as stupid as the right wing would like to believe, are shrugging and wondering why they should care.

What sets Obama apart from the Clintons is his willingness to speak relatively forthrightly about matters, rather than simply attempt to manipulate the audience. That sets him apart from McCain as well. That and having an actual, working brain.

9:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem for Hillary's using this matter is that what Obama said is true. The people who see this as an issue live in cities. The people in small towns see the truth in Obama's words.

10:44 AM  
Blogger MLS said...

Mickey Kaus has a 4-point deconstruction of Obama's remarks. http://www.slate.com/id/2188487/ It is, imo, devastating and on target. Of course, AL would say that Kaus should just shut up and not criticize the inevitable Democratic nominee, but its so hard to enforce discipline on the internet.

BTW, only elitists use the word "schadenfreude."

12:15 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

MLS,

So all German-speaking individuals are, automatically, "elitists"? Better tell Die Welt.

Damn, Herr Dobberpuhl didn't know, back in public school, that he was creating elitists either.

Accusing people of having a vocabulary not limited to 3 syllables of being "elitist" might work, in a lot of places, but those people are just bitter they never got to take German in school, so they turned to guns, religion, and fear of foreigners.

4:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

neutral,
your analysis lacks specificity and coroboration. for instance: "It is now a certainty that Barack Obama cannot and will not be elected to the presidency--he himself has assured us of that." you cite nothing, explain nothing. you merely predict the unknown future, call it "a certainty", and move on (believing that you've proved your point).

also, "Now the savviest among the Dems know what none of them dares to say: Obama cannot connect with 'real' Americans, and will be quite roundly trounced in November." putting aside the specious distinction between "real" americans and obama supporters (kansas, anyone?), you're basically just tooting your own horn for being "savvy" enough to understand that the most popular national democrat in several decades is just too black (or too elitist?) to win.

finally, i'm not so sure about your neutrality.

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