Monday, December 03, 2007

Rudy Giuliani is a Very Serious Person

In Rudy Giuliani's new television ad, which is currently airing in New Hampshire and elsewhere, he declares: "I know that reducing taxes produces more revenue." He then smiles and says: "The Democrats don't know that. They don't believe that." He then claims that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards have all promised to raise taxes and assures the television audience that they'll in fact raises taxes even more than they are promising to do (watch the whole ad here).

Many forms of deception and demagoguery have become commonplace among Republican politicians, but this kind may be the most pernicious. Giuliani is, of course, smart enough to know that tax cuts do not in fact increase revenue. They may spur growth, depending on the type of cut and the circumstances, but no reputable economist anywhere (including those who work for the Bush administration) thinks that they result in more net revenue for the government. If that were true, we'd keep cutting taxes until they reached 0% and reap the windfall.

But this isn't surprising. Giuliani is particularly shameless on these issues. In a lengthy op-ed in today's Wall Street Journal on this very subject, Giuliani writes:
We need to keep taxes low for our economy to grow. It's not just a theory for me. I cut taxes 23 times as mayor of New York City with a Democratic City Council and State Assembly, and saw that lower taxes can result in higher revenue. Amid fears of an economic slowdown, now is the time to cut taxes, not raise them. But the Democratic presidential candidates all seem determined to impose an unprecedented $3 trillion tax hike on the American people.
This paragraph is so chocked full of nonsense and hyperbole that it's embarrassing. First, as Steven Benen points out, Giuliani's claim to have cut taxes 23 times is a ridiculous exaggeration. You can only arrive at that number by double-counting certain tax cuts, counting others that Giuliani opposed, and counting some cuts that were never actually implemented. Worst of all, though, is Giuliani's ludicrous claim that municipal tax cuts played some sort of causal role in increasing the City's revenue. New York City's revenue increased in the 90s because the national economy, and Wall Street in particular, were booming. Even the craziest, most radical supply-siders don't think that the municipal tax rates in one city have any significant impact on the economy or stock market.

Like he does in his commercial, Giuliani again claims that the Democrat presidential candidates are determined to raise taxes dramatically. I'm not sure where he gets the $3 trillion figure. It's probably just made up. And I'm almost certain it counts not renewing the Bush tax cuts (even though the Republicans themselves chose not to make those cuts permanent when they were originally passed in order to downplay their fiscal impact).

Whats particularly shameless about this line of attack, though, is that Giuliani knows that the Democrats have no desire to raise taxes as an end in itself. They're proposing raising taxes (on higher income folks only) because the federal government has a major revenue shortfall and a crippling debt-load, both of which will only get worse in the years to come. In other words, they're advocating the only responsible course of action, and doing so at their own political peril (because they know that shameless demagogues like Giuliani will attack them for it).

Giuliani, by contrast, is promising that people can have their cake and eat it too, that we can just keep lowering taxes indefinitely. And guess whose taxes he wants to lower:
Republicans have a clearer understanding of how our economy works. This summer, I unveiled my tax plan, which committed to making the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts permanent, while aiming for still-lower marginal rates. We'll give the death tax the death penalty, index the Alternative Minimum Tax for inflation as a step toward eliminating it entirely, expand tax-free savings accounts, and expand health-care choice through tax reform. We also need to reduce the corporate tax rate . . .
All of these proposals have one thing in common; they primarily benefit the wealthy. That's certainly true of Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts (especially considering the Democrats have promised to keep in place the parts of those cuts that benefit lower and middle income tax payers). And I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that when Giuliani talks about "aiming for still lower marginal rates," he's primarily concerned with the top rates. The estate (death!) tax is a tax on rich heirs, and eliminating it would serve only the interests of the very wealthy (not even supply-siders think such a cut would result in economic growth; it's a naked give-away to the rich). And while fixing the AMT would benefit some upper-middle class tax payers (like me), eliminating it entirely would, again, only benefit the very wealthy. The tax was created for the sole purpose of making sure the rich couldn't use loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. Similarly, expanded use of tax-free savings and health accounts primarily benefits those of us in the higher tax brackets while doing very little for those in the lower brackets. There is literally nothing in Giuliani's laundry list of tax cuts that is aimed at lower or middle classes Americans.

Giuliani embodies everything that is wrong with Republican fiscal policy. It makes no sense. It's built on lies and deception. It's unbelievably irresponsible. And it's primarily geared toward making our system more regressive (not to mention bankrupt). But that's okay because Rudy Giuliani is a very serious person.
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6 Comments:

Blogger Enlightened Layperson said...

Common sense version of the Laffer Curve: Raising taxes raises revenue. However this process is subject to diminishing returns. Raising taxes higher and higher generates less and less additional revenue until, eventually, when taxes get very high, further increases actually reduce revenue.

Republican version of the Laffer Curve: Cutting taxes raises revenue. The lower the (marginal) tax rate, the greater the revenues. However, eventually, when tax rates are very low, cutting taxes actually reduces revenue.

2:42 PM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

It's hard to argue that the supply-side mythology means very much any more. I wish it would go away, to be replaced by arguments about smaller government. However, the Republicans have completely devalued their frugality brand through spending like crazy people for the last 7 years. This is why they're probably going to lose, and lose big.

But a few quibbles:

Giuliani is, of course, smart enough to know that tax cuts do not in fact increase revenue. They may spur growth, depending on the type of cut and the circumstances, but no reputable economist anywhere (including those who work for the Bush administration) thinks that they result in more net revenue for the government. If that were true, we'd keep cutting taxes until they reached 0% and reap the windfall.

Well, that's a reductio ad absurdam argument that isn't really valid. We can hopefully agree that the Laffer Curve actually does exist (i.e. that there is some average tax rate between 0% and 100% that maximizes revenue, since it's trivial to demonstrate that tax revenues at both of those points are equal to 0). Now, you can have a completely honest argument about whether that optimal point is at 19% average federal rate (where we are now) or 90% federal rate.

Hopefully, we can also all agree that setting the average tax rate to a value greater than optimal is a lose-lose proposition and you should always reduce taxes to at least the optimal rate. But once you have a rate below optimal, the Giuliani argument (along with the rest of those by the GOP field) goes out the window.

I suspect we're taxing at less than optimal now, but proably not a lot less than optimal. If you let the Bush cuts lapse, you're probably still less than optimal, but not by very much. If you were to go back to pre-Reagan tax levels, you'd probably be greater than optimal.

Of course, the real reason to keep tax rates less than optimal is to limit the growth of government. However, as I mentioned above, nobody in the field is brazen enough to lead with that argument, given recent history. That's unfortunate, because that's a good public discussion to have.

I'm not sure where he gets the $3 trillion figure. It's probably just made up. And I'm almost certain it counts not renewing the Bush tax cuts (even though the Republicans themselves chose not to make those cuts permanent when they were originally passed in order to downplay their fiscal impact).

Since all of the GOP candidates expicitly advocate making the Bush cuts permanent and all of the Democratic candidates explicitly advocate letting them lapse, including those cuts as part of Democratically-controlled increases seems completely consistent to me. But I also have no clue where the $3T number comes from. Given that 2007 tax revenue from all individuals was $972B, it certainly isn't a reasonable annual figure.

...the Democrats have no desire to raise taxes as an end in itself. They're proposing raising taxes (on higher income folks only) because the federal government has a major revenue shortfall and a crippling debt-load, both of which will only get worse in the years to come.

Of course, debt has risen monotonically since the '50s, even though it came close to going flat near the end of Clinton's term. It's certainly rising steeping now.

However, when last I did the back-of-napkin calculation, we'd be running a slight surplus without the supplementals for Iraq and Afghanistan. So the budget management hasn't been completely awful under Bush. Furthermore total debt (~$8T) is still only about 60% of annual GDP (~$13T). But, yeah, debt is too high and needs to be paid down. Since the military ops are important, taxes need to be raised for a while. If you can come up with a scheme whereby those additional revenues will go to debt retirement and prosecuting the war(s) instead of new spending, I'd be very happy.

All of these proposals have one thing in common; they primarily benefit the wealthy.

Well, of course they do. The bulk of government revenues are "primarily" contributed by the wealthy, so they're going to benefit corrsespondingly from any cuts. Your use of this argument buys into the principal piece of Democratic mythology, i.e., that the rich are greedier than everybody else and should for some reason therefore benefit less or suffer more, on a percentage basis, than the rest of the country. Playing this card substantially weakens a pretty good argument that you had going.

...it's primarily geared toward making our system more regressive...

How's that? Here were the tax rates for 2001 for married filing jointly:

000K-045K 15.0%
045K-109K 27.4%
109K-166K 30.5%
166K-297K 35.5%
above297K 39.1%

And here they are for 2007:

000K-015K 10.0%
015K-064K 15.0%
064K-128K 25.0%
128K-196K 28.0%
196K-350K 33.0%
above350K 35.0%

For all middle-class earners, the rates are substantially lower under Bush. Furthermore, that doesn't include the substantially increased personal and child exemptions. If you let the Bush cuts lapse, all that stuff goes out the window and you'd better hope for a Democratic supermajority if you want it restored, because the GOP isn't going to give the Democrats the bill they want (which is essentially to keep all of the Bush cuts except for the top brackets and the dividends).

Do you really want to argue that the Bush tax cuts were regressive? Or is your real argument that they were less redistributive? I'll buy the latter, but it doesn't play as well rhetorically, does it?

Having said that, I agree that the top marginal rates need to go up somewhat. Furthermore, I think the 15% rate on dividends is a complete giveaway and ought to be abolished. (I do think that the lower capital gains rate is a good idea, however.)

I'm also prepared to concede that the GOP supply-side narrative is dishonest. I'd hope that you were equaly willing to admit that the "tax cuts benefit the rich" Democratic argument is, at best, taking advantage of people who don't know how work with percentages.

3:27 PM  
Blogger Tom said...

Here is a question that should have been asked but wasn't: YouTube Question for Giuliani
Giuliani must be held accountable for this outrageous lie. Please pass this video on to everyone you can. E-mail, post on blogs and Internet forums.

3:46 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

I agree with much of what TheRadicalModerate has to say about the income tax, and disagree with some of it.

He does recognize one truth: It has long been axiomatic within the Democratic Party that each and every change in the tax rate schedule must extract a greater share of the total revenues from high earners: there simply does not exist any point at which they might be shouldering an unfair burden. Stated differently, from the Democratic standpoint no tax upon the "wealthy" can possibly be unfair.

The place where error creeps into the current supply-sider argument is the insistence on an increase in revenue from tax cuts. I wish they would simply say that they want to reduce marginal rates so as to spur growth and prosperity even if it means a smaller revenue stream. Like everyone else, they seem to have bought into the notion that the principal goal of every tax structure should be to maximize the flow of revenue to the federal treasury. That notion is now so ingrained that it is never questioned. It should be.

I would quibble with the argument about dividend taxation. Recall that the recipient has already had the value of his shares reduced by, and has borne the cost of, the income tax paid by the corporation before the dividend is paid. There is no correct or incorrect answer as to whether this is "fair"; just as with the death tax, you either think this is an appropriate occasion for a visit from the tax man or you don't. But this is a question that should be devoid of any arguments about fairness. And a fortiori, no particular rate of dividend taxation can be shown to be more or less fair than any other.

And I argue strenuously with the characterization of any tax reduction as a "giveaway." When a group persuades the government to reduce or eliminate a tax the group is paying, the government isn't "giving" the group a damn thing. The money does not belong to the government.


And Al, I heartily agree with your contention that Republican candidates are routinely guilty of deceit and demagoguery. What absolutely baffles me is your implicit suggestion that Democratic candidates are somehow different. They aren't, period.

11:30 AM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

I withdraw the "giveaway" characterization. Sloppy wordsmithing.

Even though I agree that dividends would otherwise be double-taxed, if you're going to raise revenue, it's a good way to do it in a progressive fashion. Taxpayers who have substantial dividend income are usually quite wealthy. Before you crank up marginal rates on everybody, better to make dividends ordinary income again.

As far as I can tell, there is very little economic impact from treating dividends as ordinary income. This is in stark contrast to the 20% capital gains ceiling, which has been demonstrated to have freed up a whole bunch of otherwise frozen capital.

I completely agree that there are lots of reasons not to increase taxes if you're on the left side of the Laffer Curve. But any discussion of decreasing them has to be made on the merits of reducing the size of government or stimulating the economy, not on the bogus "we'll increase revenue!" argument.

12:42 PM  
Blogger MLS said...

Today's Washington Post had an editorial basically making the same points as AL with regard to Giuliani's op-ed. Of course, yesterday's WP had an editorial accusing the Democratic candidates of demagoguery with regard to trade, but everyone knows that the Monday Post is written by the vast right wing conspiracy.

11:13 PM  

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