Monday, November 26, 2007

True Conservatism

Mike Huckabee's recent rise in the polls, both in Iowa and nationally, has caused some alarm in certain Republican circles. In his column today, Bob Novak gives voice to this concern:

Huckabee is campaigning as a conservative, but serious Republicans know that he is a high-tax, protectionist, big-government advocate of a strong hand in the Oval Office directing the lives of Americans. Until now, they did not bother to expose the former governor of Arkansas as a false conservative because he seemed an underfunded, unknown nuisance candidate. Now that he has pulled even with Mitt Romney for the Iowa caucuses with the possibility of more progress, the beleaguered Republican Party has a frightening problem on its hands.

The rise of evangelical Christians as the motive force that blasted the GOP out of minority status during the past generation always contained an inherent danger if these new Republican acolytes supported not merely a conventional conservative but one of their own. That has happened now with Huckabee, a former Baptist minister educated at Ouachita Baptist University and Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. The danger is a serious contender for the nomination who passes the litmus test of social conservatives on abortion, gay marriage and gun control but is far removed from the conservative-libertarian model of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.
Andrew Sullivan's response is spot on:

Memo to Novak: have you heard of George W. Bush?
George W. Bush is a born-again Christian and has made that fact a central feature of his political career. In 2000, Bush ran as a "compassionate conservative," which is exactly the kind of rhetoric Novak is criticising Huckabee for using.

Moreover, as any remotely rational political observer can tell you, the Bush/Cheney administration bears no resemblance whatsoever to the "conservative-libertarian model of Barry Goldwater." Bush has overseen the largest increase in spending in American history. He created the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives. He sought (twice) to amend the Constitution to ban gay marriage. He authorized illegal warrantless wiretapping of Americans and locked up U.S. citizens indefinitely without charges. He has pushed for laws that significantly curtail civil liberties and sought at every step to expand the power of the presidency. His two primary legislative achievements are 1) a bill that dramatically expanded Medicare and 2) a bill that dramatically increased federal involvement in and control over education. His Justice Department has fought aggressively to prevent various states from complying with popular laws intended to legalize medicinal marijuana and doctor-assisted suicide. I could go on and on. [and I completely forgot about Terri Schiavo].

The notion that Huckabee represents some kind of major departure from Republicanism as we know it is just laughable. The modern Republican party is the party of George Bush and Dick Cheney, of Tom Delay and Rudy Giuliani, and yes, Mike Huckabee. And there is nothing about that party that Barry Goldwater would even recognize.
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23 Comments:

Anonymous SteveIL said...

By a comparison, Rudy Giuliani is a fiscal conservative (more along the lines of a Ronald Reagan than a George W. Bush). The fact that the federal budget did increase during Reagan's tenure had more to do with Congress being in the hands of the Democrats for most of that time than anything else. Giuliani, on the other hand, did drag the Democrat-majority New York City city council, kicking and screaming, into fiscal responsibility, unlike George W. Bush, and did so without raising taxes, unlike Mike Huckabee.

1:03 PM  
Anonymous tominwindsor said...

In my opinion Mike Huckabee is grossly underestimated. I think he is a real contender for the Republican nomination, and he may just be the only Republican candidate with a chance of being elected. He is an evangelical populist who could have broad based appeal, surprising many people. He is also his own man and not a slave of the beltway establishment mentality. In a full out campaign the Democratic contenders would look insipid beside him. He might just make a good President.

2:17 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

"The modern Republican party is the party of George Bush and Dick Cheney, of Tom Delay and Rudy Giuliani, and yes, Mike Huckabee. And there is nothing about that party that Barry Goldwater would even recognize."

All you've done, A.L., is simply list a number of people who are in today's Republican Party. And I think Barry G. would recognize them as being in his party the same as he recognized Everett Dirksen and, yes, Nelson Rockefeller (even if Rockefeller didn't return the favor). Barry's party was also the party of Earl Warren, Chuck Percy, Bill Scranton, Gerald Ford, Jackie Robinson, Jacob Javitz and Kenneth Keating. Remember, Barry caused a serious rift within the party, many of whose members found him too conservative. It was a big tent then, and it's a big tent now.

It might be more interesting to inquire whether Jack Kennedy would recognize the party of Nancy Pelosi, Dennis Kucinich, Harry Reid, Keith Ellison and Fortney "Pete" Stark. What do you suppose JFK would have to say to the likes of John Murtha or Jim McDermott? What would Scoop Jackson think of such men?

5:29 PM  
Blogger MLS said...

It is true that Bush has in most ways been a big government conservative, but on the two issues that are most important to Novak (not to Andrew Sullivan), taxes and trade, Bush has been fairly conventional. If it is true that Huckabee is departing from Republican orthodoxy on these issues, it is hardly surprising that Novak is alarmed.

This doesnt mean that Novak has approved of Bush's policies on NCLB, medicare, etc, just that he thinks that Huckabee is even worse. So I don't see Novak's criticism of Huckabee as giving Bush a pass on his economic record, if that is Sullivan's point.

As for the social issues, Novak agrees with Bush and Huckabee, not with Sullivan. There is no doubt an argument about whether the social conservative position is more in line with the Reagan/Goldwater tradition than is a more social libertarian position, but that is a separate issue.

On the question of national security policies (torture, wiretapping, interventionism), the Republican elite is fairly united around the Bush positions (although the base is much more dubious, IMO). As far as I know, Huckabee is not an outlier on these issues (though Novak may be).

5:53 PM  
Blogger A.L. said...

neutral,

I'm not trying to throw people out of the Republican tent. Novak was the one doing that. His column was entitled "The False Conservative" and he claimed that Huckabee is some sort of dangerous deviant. I was just pointing out that Huckabee isn't all that different from Bush and that there is very little that Goldwater would find appealing about the modern GOP.

MLS,

I agree that Novak's primary concerns have to do with Huckabee's positions on taxes and trade. But that's kind of ironic given that 1) Huckabee has signed the tax pledge just like everyone else and 2) the current GOP orthodoxy on taxes would be utterly foreign to both Goldwater and Reagan (who Novak cites as model conservatives). Supply-side voodooism hadn't even been dreamed up in 1964 and Reagan, despite his proclaimed belief in supply-side economics, raised taxes many times both as governor and president.

As for trade, Goldwater was a protectionist and Reagan often paid only lip-service to free trade while supporting various protectionist policies.

6:24 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

I take your point, A.L., but it seems to me that Novak was throwing Hucakabee out of the conservative tent, not the Republican one. Huckabee may well be some sort of dangerous deviant, but that is not because he is a Republican. It is hard for any of us to speculate what Barry Goldwater would or would not find appealing about today's GOP, but he certainly found the GOP very appealing when it was led by the many "moderate" and "liberal" Republicans I identified.

In any event, it ill becomes any liberal to chide the GOP for not resembling something Goldwater would endorse. For decades, anything he endorsed was utterly vilified by them, as he personally was vilified. (You don't really want to unearth some of the appalling liberal excresences of the 1964 campaign, do you?)

If the GOP today is generally more statist than it was in Goldwater's heyday, what corresponding change has occurred on the other side of the aisle? Recall JFK's inaugural: we hold "the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God." (What Democrat today would utter that phrase?) Or how about, "this nation will pay any price, bear any burden, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to ensure the survival and success of liberty." He could almost have been warming up to deliver G.W. Bush's second inaugural. And he would weep at the sight of his party today.

8:13 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

I'm truly enamored of this liberal nostalgia for the "true" conserviatism of Barry Goldwater. Let me offer the following, further to demonstrate how sad it must be that some modern Republicans, passing themselves off as conservatives, simply don't measure up to the liberal's idea of a conservative, Barry Goldwater himself.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed the US Senate were it not for Republican support. Republican Senators were for it by 82% (27-6); the Democrats were a laggardly 68% (46-22). One of the six Republicans voting "nay" was Barry Goldwater.

Goldwater also wanted to make participation in the Social Security program voluntary.

Now THERE was a "true conservative" in the eyes of the modern liberal. Oh, how they yearn for the day when such principled men of the Right as Barry Goldwater had the courage to stand up for such ideas! Oh, how the nation at large must lament the passing of conservatives such as Barry!

Right. You guys really miss the day when "conservative" meant to electoral politics what "fish" means to barrel. Sorry for your loss.

9:56 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

I do enjoy Neutral's work. In the same comment, he says: "It is hard for any of us to speculate what Barry Goldwater would or would not find appealing about today's GOP" and yet is completely able to definitively tell us what JFK would think about today's Democratic party.

The looming disaster of the 2008 election, as people come to realize that the current field of disasters-in-the-making is the slate they're going to have to select from, is beginning to produce more than a little desperation.

If it makes them crotchety, we have to make allowances.

10:16 PM  
Anonymous joel hanes said...

The fact that the federal budget did increase during Reagan's tenure had more to do with Congress being in the hands of the Democrats for most of that time than anything else.

This would be laughable, except that it doesn't quite make it to that level of credibility.

Hello? 600-ship Navy? Tax cuts? Laffer curve? Reaganomics? "Supply-side"? Stephanopolis?
You were maybe asleep, or a child, or yet unborn during the Reign of Ronnie?

I wasn't. He should have died in Leavenworth for Iran Contra (which was real treason, a sincere effort to subvert the Constitution, pure and simple).

Instead, today's GOP regards Reagan as a hero. And I'm actually glad.

You know how those "trucker girl" mudflaps self-identify the Neanderthals among us?
Admiration of Reagan the Empty Suit serves the same purpose in politics.

11:03 PM  
Blogger A.L. said...

Neutral, I think you misunderstand me. I'm not even the slightest bit nostalgic for Barry Goldwater. I was just pointing out Novak's cognitive dissonance.

11:50 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

Forgive me, A.L., for thinking you were nostalgic for ol' Barry. For some reason I thought you were holding him out as the exemplar of a kind of conservatism you could get behind. Silly of me. So now I guess you really just wanted to attack Bob Novak. OK with me; I hold no brief for the man. Or for Mike Huckabee, for the matter of that.

Concerning Ronaldus Maximus, let me leave you with this pleasant thought: "On the morning of the day he died, he was the greatest man alive." That can be said of three Americans: Washington, Lincoln, Reagan--and no others. The world knows it. You'll all have to live with it. And you can dream, along with visions of sugarplums, that he died in Leavenworth.

As for the looming disaster of the 2008 elections, we shall see what we shall see. I note that the estimable Zogby, on this very morning, has all five of the leading Republican candidates defeating Hillary. And the White House is the only one we care about, because to hold it ensures that when the brain-dead Stevens dies, there'll be no goofball appointed to take his place. And Ginsburg is not going to be around all that long, either. As for the circuit courts, there'll be no Pregersons, no Reinhardts; in the districts, there'll be no Lee Sarokins. The lemmings will nominate Hillary, and the lemmings will get what they richly deserve.

So we conservatives, inclined as we are to compromise, will settle on Rudy as the man to hold the White House for the more conservative of today's two parties. That's all a that we in the reality-based community can hope for in the best of times.

Finally, to say that we cannot know what Barry Goldwater would think of today's GOP is quite a different matter from knowing what JFK would think of the Democrats. Kennedy's every utterance contradicts everything their leadership stands for today. Some of the principles supported by Goldwater are still fundamental to his party. He might find a comfortable home within it, even though it is firmly committed to the advances of the 1964 Act, or he might not. But it is clear that John Kennedy would gag at what he would see today.

12:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Neutral -- When you mention that the Civil Rights Act was passed with the support of a majority of Republicans and a minority of Democrats, it's important not to omit that the parties at that time were very different than they are now. In fact, the political heirs to the Southern Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act are now solidly Republican.

10:02 AM  
Anonymous neutral said...

Actually, anonymous, a majority of Democrats voted for the Act as well, but just in a smaller proportion. And I agree with you about the differences between the parties, then and now. But you will not find a single segregationist among the current southern Republican lawmakers. In any event, this is pretty much the point I've been trying to make: The Democratic Party in 1964 was the party of JFK, and he wouldn't believe his eyes were he to see it today.

Meantime, reflecting the propensity of the GOP to compromise, we have the following from the New York Sun, November 27:

"The news of Senator Lott's decision to retire from the Senate was met yesterday with fulsome praise from the leader of the Democrats in the upper chamber. 'Senator Lott has been a true friend, consistently reaching across the aisle to serve the interests of the people of Mississippi and to help me serve the interests of the people of Nevada,' Senator Reid said. Mr. Reid called Mr. Lott 'one of the most pleasant Senators I have ever worked with' and said, 'I am proud to have worked side-by-side with such a distinguished public servant as Trent Lott, and I wish him well as he leaves the Senate.'"

11:17 AM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

I'm both bemused and saddened that the GOP has bought into this "who's the true conservative?" narrative so heavily. I understand that there's still a certain amount of shell-shock from '06 and that agonizing reappraisal is a natural response. But the Democrats are actually running an issue-based campaign in that rare year when the electorate is actually receptive to issues. The fact that the Republican's are so fascinated with their own navels bodes very poorly for informed discourse on the issues. The Democrats have a golden opportunity to pass off their agenda--which is, as usual, equal parts pretty good and pretty stupid--as an uncontested orthodoxy. This is how bad policy gets made.

Novak should shut up. Nothing new there. But McGiuromnabee need to take some time out from base-pandering and describe how they'd actually govern, or it's all over. As somebody who's right-of-center on a fair number of issues, that worries me a lot. But you left-of-centers ought to worry, too. Uncontested policies almost always turn out to be wrong. Just take a look at the last seven years if you doubt that.

11:39 AM  
Blogger Quiddity said...

Come on folks, Novak is simply doing a hit-job on behalf of some other candidate. Huckabee is conservative. Very. And the taxes enacted or proposed by Huckabee that Novak bemoans are regressive ones.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the notion of “small-government” Conservatives and Republicans went out with the Studebaker. Kristol is the most honest Conservative out there. Although many right-wingers believe the choice was always between the “anti-statists” and the “statists” Kristol knows it was always a choice between the Right-Wing Statist and Liberal Statists. (Leftist Statist in the US are a joke). Conservatives, like Novak and other assorted right-wingers can have misty water colored memories of the way they were, however at their core they love a “robust” and “masculine” State run by right-wing authoritative characters, and only embrace “anti-state” rhetoric when “the wrong people are in power.”

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Kristol described the current Republican coalition as consisting primarily of two main strains: economic and social conservatives. The economic conservatives are anti-state and the social conservatives are anti-liberal who view liberalism "as corroding and subverting the virtues that they believe must be the bedrock of decent society." He believes that the differences between the economic conservatives and the social conservatives produce "tensions" between the two groups. Kristol's long range view is that the social conservatives represent "an authentic mass movement that gathers strength with every passing year."

from:
Splitting the Republican Coalition
Social Democrats, USA
Copyright: 1996, SD, USA

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This leads to the issue of the role of the state. Neocons do not like the concentration of services in the welfare state and are happy to study alternative ways of delivering these services. But they are impatient with the Hayekian notion that we are on "the road to serfdom." Neocons do not feel that kind of alarm or anxiety about the growth of the state in the past century, seeing it as natural, indeed inevitable. Because they tend to be more interested in history than economics or sociology, they know that the 19th-century idea, so neatly propounded by Herbert Spencer in his "The Man Versus the State," was a historical eccentricity. People have always preferred strong government to weak government, although they certainly have no liking for anything that smacks of overly intrusive government. Neocons feel at home in today's America to a degree that more traditional conservatives do not. Though they find much to be critical about, they tend to seek intellectual guidance in the democratic wisdom of Tocqueville, rather than in the Tory nostalgia of, say, Russell Kirk.

from:
The Neoconservative Persuasion
August 25, 2003

1:16 PM  
Anonymous casual observer said...

A good post and good comments too. I have a feeling that traditional definitions no longer apply, and that both parties are currently "moving targets" in terms of major factions and where they are drifting. All is flux.
I wonder how the retirements of various republican legislators plays into this. Would we call Lott a moderate, because he was primarily a realist and pragmatist? Sure seem to be a lot of GOPpers jumping ship these days. Is the only reason the hefty K-street money that awaits? Surely that can't be the only thing that a republican thinks about. Money, I mean.

2:42 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

You can easily understand the thinking behind these "retirements." If they stick, they get to to (almost certainly, Mr. Neutral's crystal ball notwithstanding) spend the next several years not being able to do much for their real constituents, the corporations that pay them for the legislation they produce, even if they are re-elected. If they "retire" now, they get to pull down the big bucks and do their friends a lot more good in return.

Viewed from that standpoint, you can see it's not all about money -- there's a level of loyalty to his real constituency, the corporations and private interests that he will now be in a better position to help.

That it leaves in the lurch the people who re-elected him to the Senate in the expectation that his seniority would bring them federal benefits is no doubt keeping him awake at night, but does not appear to be a controlling concern.

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