Wednesday, November 28, 2007

Huckabee Could Win the Whole Thing

The conventional wisdom among political commentators (from across the political spectrum) is that Mike Huckabee could very well win the Iowa caucuses but that he has little chance of translating that victory into a successful nomination run. In other words, he's a spoiler, capable of derailing Mitt Romney's candidacy but not of winning the nomination himself. I think that's mistaken.

As Chris Cillizza explains, Huckabee still has his work cut out for him in Iowa. Though he is rising rapidly, his campaign is underfunded and he may be peaking too soon. That said, *if* Huckabee wins Iowa, and particularly if he wins it handily, he has a perfectly plausible path to the nomination. Part of the reason people doubt Huckabee's lasting power is the fact that his campaign is lacking in money and lacking in establishment support. Both of those factors ultimately doomed John McCain's insurgent candidacy in 2000.

But there are some pretty significant differences between Huckabee in 2008 and McCain in 2000. In 2000, essentially the entire Republican establishment coalesced around George W. Bush. Bush had the support of all the major Republican interest groups (the religious right, the anti-tax crusaders, the old guard, etc). Much of what McCain said during the campaign made it impossible for these groups to support him. So they joined together and tore him down.

In this election, however, these forces are unlikely to coalesce around a single one of Huckabee's opponents. Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, and McCain each have some level of establishment and interest group support, and each have weaknesses that are preventing important players from getting behind them. There's no equivalent of George W. Bush in this race. And unlike McCain in 2000, Huckabee is already the preferred candidate of one of these key groups, the religious right. And while Huckabee's record of raising taxes as governor has incurred the wrath of the Grover Norquist, anti-tax faction of the party (which is all too often fatal), it not inconceivable that this group could, under the right circumstances, fall in line behind his candidacy. Huckabee has, after all, signed Norquist's anti-tax pledge and has made the "fair tax" a central part of his platform.

In other words, Huckabee is not as threatening to the key Republican interest groups as McCain was in 2000, and even if he were, those groups are unlikely to rally behind a single opponent.

As for money, I think it is far less important than people seem to think it is. In 2004, John Kerry's campaign was flat broke just prior to the Iowa caucuses (he had to mortgage his house to keep going). But the money came flowing in after he won in Iowa. Moreover, with the compressed schedule this year, free media is going to be much more important than paid media. The New Hampshire primary is only five days after Iowa. The winner of Iowa will benefit from an enormous amount of free publicity during those five crucial days. And even without the benefit of paid advertising, Huckabee is already rising rapidly in the polls outside of Iowa. A new South Carolina poll released today had Huckabee in 3rd place with 13% support. That's just a few points behind Romney and Thompson and ahead of both McCain and Giuliani. If Huckabee can do that without any paid advertising (and without all that much free publicity either), there's no reason to think he won't be competitive in other states should he manage to win Iowa.

Finally, having sat through several of the Republican debates, it's pretty clear to me that Huckabee is the one of the more (if the not the most) charismatic and polished candidates in the field. I think one of the things that's been keeping him from getting the recognition he deserves in this regard is his perceived status as a "second-tier" candidate. He's essentially been the Joe Biden of the Republican debates, i.e., the best debater but often ignored and not given very much speaking time. As a result, he's never really had the opportunity to "win" a debate. That will change if he starts to be perceived as a first-tier candidate. He'll be given more time to speak and more attention in the post-debate commentary. That change may even be visible in the debate tonight. It'll be interesting to see.

Needless to say, none of the above should be taken to indicate that I'm a Huckabee fan. I'm not (though I'd take him over Giuliani in a heartbeat). I just think he's being underestimated. The Republican nomination is completely up for grabs at this point and I think Huckabee has just about as good a shot as anyone.

UPDATE: UncommonSense thinks Huckabee could go all the way, too.
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23 Comments:

Blogger UncommonSense said...

A.L., I agree with you completely.

As I wrote over at my place, the people who look at Huckabee's Iowa surge as a ticket to the V.P. slot are missing it. He can, and I believe will, be the GOP nominee.

If Huckabee wins Iowa, which I think he will, I think he is a shoo-in to win South Carolina.

The bottom line is that Huckabee is the natural choice for Evangelicals. This has been my belief for quite some time. He is what Romney, Thompson and McCain have been pretending to be, and what Giuliani doesn't even dare pretend to be: a born-again Christian conservative. His positions are unassailable from the right on abortion and gay rights; He doesn't cut as scary a figure as many other prominent social conservatives (at least until we really get to know him); and the Club For Growth assault on him will certainly be moderated as he starts to get taken more seriously. It will, for example, be a lot easier for him to charm the Big Money Boyz than it would be for Romney or Giuliani to co-opt the religious right. A little anti-tax rhetoric goes a long way.

All that having been said, I don't want anybody to think I support him. He is a hardcore right-winger, and must not be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office.

But I feel confident in predicting that he will be the Republican nominee, especially after having witnessed the meltdown of Mitt Romney over the last couple of days; the growing attention to Giuliani's sordid past; and Fred Thompson's complete failure to capitalize on the high hopes that the Republican Party had for him.

5:01 PM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

If Huckabee gets nominated, I will happily vote for either Clinton or Obama. Of all the McGiuromnabees, he's the only one that is completely unacceptable. He may make the social conservative crowd happy ("One of us! One of us! One of US!), but he's so wacky on protectionism and taxation that it'd be like voting for Edwards.

5:07 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

Having cast my first vote for Barry Goldwater, and having never voted for a single Democratic candidate for any office in my life (I would have voted for Zev Yaroslavsky for L.A. City Council, but I lived in the Hollywood Hills and couldn't), I will vote for Huckabee if he is the nominee.

But let me go on record this 28th day of November, 2008: Mike Huckabee will not be the nominee. If he is, my sense of shame will be such that I must commit seppuku, and will never appear on this site again. You dopes should be so lucky...

7:14 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

I don't think the probability of a Huckabee nomination is high.

I would say, rather, that, if there is going to be a break-out from the pack, it will have to be Huckabee, as the others have all peaked or have no chance of going anywhere.

There may not be a break-out, though. We may have the pleasant spectacle of the GOP in a deadlocked convention to enjoy next year.

If Huckabee is nominated, though, I'll enjoy the campaign, as he's at least an articulate, reasonably intelligent person, in sharp contrast from the current occupant of the WH.

And, of course, the heads exploding are always amusing to watch -- from a distance.

8:25 PM  
Anonymous neutral said...

A deadlocked convention will not occur in either party during the term of any life now in being, plus twenty-one years.

10:12 PM  
Blogger Enlightened Layperson said...

I think most of the GOP establishment is deadset against Huckabee for an obvious reason -- he's unelectable.

PS to Neutral: How will manage to vote for Huckabee if you committed sepuku upon hearing of his nomination? [/snark]

1:20 AM  
Anonymous neutral said...

Dear Enlightened: Having committed seppuku, I will be abstaining in all elections unto eternity; my final bequest will vest the hapless Huckabee with my proxy.

What with the 72 virgins, Cuban Montecristo #2 torpedos, giant flasks of The Glenmorangie, and round-the-clock NFL games on the big plasma screen in the sky, I'll be too busy to vote.

2:25 AM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

Neutral, performing suicidal Shinto rituals is going to send you straight to hell. No virgins for you! In fact, they've set up a polling place for you to vote, over and over and over.

Oh, yeah: You'll get nothing but hanging chads.

12:45 PM  
Anonymous Neutral said...

Dear RadicalModerate:

I suppose that if I could just arrange for someone to assist me in my suicide, I would be ushered through the Pearly Gates to a chorus of Hosannas, and might well in due course sprout wings from my scapulae and assume the lofty status of Archangel. And in addition to the Montecristos and the Glenmorangie, I would imagine there might even be some heavenly medicinal-quality cocaine.

Meantime, here on the mortal coil, can anybody account for why roughly six of the 34 questioners selected by CNN (out of thousands) turned out to be Democratic activists, and CNN during all of the preparations for the debate was unaware of this fact, while viewers became aware of it almost instantly? (This is eerily reminiscent of CBS's studied ignorance of the phoniness of the Bush TANG documents while every sentient being in America was immediately able to determine what clumsy forgeries they were.) When does CNN (or CBS) ever err in the other direction? How many Republican activists were selected to ask questions at CNN's Democratic debate?

I would like to hear from some of my esteemed Leftist brethren here about their opinions on the integrity and honesty of Madame Clinton. Please, feel free to speak up, even if you have to use an alias.

And what do you make of President Bill's preposterous whopper about his oppisition to the Iraq war? Is it simply a case of dog bites man?

8:20 PM  
Blogger UncommonSense said...

Others, like Andrew Sullivan, are beginning to get a clue:

People talk of how Huckabee could weaken Romney and allow Rudy to win. But what if Rudy and Romney so destroy one another that Huckabee comes up between them. He's been rising in South Carolina all year as well. And Giuliani has been sliding there constantly in the past nine months.

Absent a major meltdown of his own, I think Huckabee is going to be their guy.

And if he'll just keep yakking about that FairTax nonsense, he'll be pretty easy pickings in the general election.

10:57 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

Huckabee is the reductio ad absurdem proof that the GOP is, as presently constituted, a non-viable party. Nice guy, and he'll pull quite a few of the GOP base his way, maybe enough to get nominated, but he won't be attractive to independents.

Neutral, since you apparently don't get around much -- on the left -- other than here at AL's blog, and the topic here is Huckabee (who you have already didactically eliminated) perhaps this would help you and eliminate the off-topic stuff: here are answers to your questions in the form of links: on the CNN-sponsored debate, this; on the Clintons, this;

Make sure you read the comments.

As for me, my concept of hell is being forced to choose between McCain and Clinton. Oh, I'd go with Clinton, because I'm mightily tired of GOP leadership -- but it would be an excruciating choice.

11:26 AM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

uncommon--

And if he'll just keep yakking about that FairTax nonsense, he'll be pretty easy pickings in the general election.

Pardon my starry-eyed idealism and naivete, but isn't it in the public interest to have strong candidates from both parties? And isn't it also in the public interest for the nominating process of both parties to favor candidates with broader-based appeal, rather than being controlled by party extremists?

Look, I won't purport to be something I'm not: I'm much more concerned about economic policy and national security, two issues with which I agree with the GOP a lot more than the Dems. So I usually hold my nose and vote Republican, even though I think they're recto-cranially inverted on social policy and many of the non-security bits of foreign policy. And yeah, I like to root for my team as much as the next guy.

But this year we've got serious energy policy issues on the table, the healthcare stuff is close to reaching a crisis point, and a serious discussion on setting the balance between liberty and safety needs to take place. These are areas where the extremists in both parties are--well, they're just being idiotic.

So I find myself in the odd situation where I'm genuinely undecided. Between Giuliani, Clinton, Romney, and Obama, there are plenty of issues to pick through. With two of these as the nominee, I think there's actually a chance for a decent national dialogue on stuff that's important. (Which isn't to say that we won't all be hip-deep in slime by November, but that's just a fact of modern elections.)

Now, if Huckabee--a man who appears to be my perfect anti-candidate--gets nominated, I 100% agree with you that it's over. But the net result of that is that Hillary or Barrack will consolidate their power by drifting further left, which by necessity requires reducing a whole bunch of issues to their simplest, most jingoistic formulation and going "lalalalalala" in response to any criticisms from the right.

This is how bad laws get made. This is exactly what caused the Republicans to go partially off the rails between 2001 and 2003 and completely off the rails between 2003 and 2007. When the Democrats were in utter disarray, there was no need to listen to them. When they got their act together, sanity slowly reemerged, even though the Democratic legislature has been completely ineffective.

I'm sure you can argue that the real answer for sanity prevailing is that it's simply better when the left is in power. I don't buy it. In my experience, policy ideas from both parties closely follow Sturgeon's Law ("ninety-five percent of everything is crap"). The beauty of two strong parties is that the other side will gleefully point out the 95% whenever it emerges. The only way to get balance this year is to have a credibly contested election.

So much for my plea for divided government, why I don't heart Huckabee, and why you shouldn't either, even if your goal is liberal--sorry, progressive--world domination.

12:13 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

Moderate,

1. Perhaps it's better to let the GOP die than to let it avoid the natural consequences of 3 decades of pandering to racism and fundamentalists. The lesson may be better learned that way.

2. The primary reason the current Congress is "ineffective" is the GOP's grand strategy in the Senate, and you want to blame this on Democrats? This situation stems from the related strategy, begun by Newt Gingrich and honed by his successors, of governing with 50.1 percent. It will be corrected when Newt and all those like him are gone.

3. It seems to me that your best bet for "divided government" is to help elect conservative Democrats.

1:11 PM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

c2h--

1) The GOP's not going to die. I don't even think it will fracture, nor is it desirable that it do so. The US actually hasn't had a major party extinguished since 1860. As I recall, that had, uh, adverse social consequences.

But you miss the point. It may indeed be desirable for the Democrats to beat the bejeezus out of the GOP. But it's not desirable for them to do it without a fight. Taking power with half-baked, uncontested ideas is bad for everybody--especially the Democrats.

2) The reason that the current Congress is ineffective is because they've been stupid and haven't attempted to produce prudent legislation. Indeed, their inability to get things past a pathetically weak opposition simply proves my point further: the electorate can spot a dumb idea from a great distance, and they're remarkably tolerant of those who decide to obstruct dumb ideas.

As for governing with 50.1%, Gingrich was able to govern with a Democratic President!! Even more important, that Democratic President was able to govern with Gingrich. Did they do everything they could to destroy each other? Yes. Did things end very, very badly? Yes. But in the meantime, they legislated very effectively. Frankly, I'm disgusted with political theater. The only things that ultimately matter are the laws produced (hopefully very few and very carefully implemented) and a modicum of statecraft. Divided government produces better versions of both.

3) I'm afraid there is no best bet for divided government this time. I just hope the Democrats are more responsible than the Republicans were. I'm not holding my breath.

2:16 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

Moderate,

No, I didn't miss your point which is that now, after a decade of mis-rule by the GOP, you want those on the left to cut the GOP a break.

You missed my point, which was that cutting them a break is nothing less than enabling their dependence on noxious politics.

Since the dissolution of the Whigs was over slavery, and it gave us the Republican party and Lincoln, I don't see what mean about "bad consequences" -- there has been bad and good in both parties.

You are entitled to your opinion as to the ineffectiveness of Congress, but don't expect to convince anybody with "because they're stupid" arguments. Calling a minority of 1 (and that thanks to Joe L.) "pathetically weak" has got to be a stretch even for you -- I've heard better from 4-year olds.

It was Clinton, not Gingrich who "governed". Perhaps you've forgotten when Gingrich tried to strong-arm the budget and Clinton called his bluff?

You are pretty safe in your hope that the D's will be more responsible than the R's were. That's called "setting the bar low."

2:39 PM  
Blogger TheRadicalModerate said...

c2h--

I think you may have just strayed over the line into obtuseness. My point wasn't that you should cut the GOP a break. It's that you should hope for a real campaign on issues, with valid criticisms on both sides, because it's good for the winning party and it's good for the country. That's more likely to happen in a closely fought race than in a blowout.

As for the Gingrich/Clinton government, in 1995, the House had a GOP majority of 230-to-204, and the Senate was 52-to-48. In the current Congress the Democrats have a majority of 233-to-202 in the House and 51-to-49 in the Senate. Furthermore, the GOP has the war hung around its neck today (quite rightly), which substantially weakens it. And yet Gingrich, with about the same sized majority as today, was able to work across the aisle and with Clinton to pass most of his agenda, while Pelosi has passed--what? Mind you, I understand that the Dems have made a conscious decision to whip up additional resentment on the war rather than having a real legislative agenda, in hopes of a huge win in '08. Right now, that looks like a pretty questionable decision. (I'll withdraw "stupid" with an apology.) Maybe it'll be friggin' brilliant in another year, or maybe it just won't matter. Everybody's tired of the GOP. We'll see. Meanwhile, any time Congress accomplishes nothing for two years, I'm a happy camper.

As for "bad consequences" from the destruction of the Whigs, you forgot about a little dust-up called the Civil War. No, I'm not suggesting that a GOP fracture would cause armed conflict. But it would be interesting times, in the Chinese curse sense of the phrase.

Meanwhile, if somebody'd like to spin up the lightly-regulated-market-free-trading-pretty-hawkish-on-national-security-promoting-but-not-imposing-democracy-and-development-abroad-while-being-socially-libertarian-with-government-as-small-as-possible-but-no-smaller party, tell me where to sign up, 'cause it sure isn't the GOP.

6:40 PM  
Blogger C2H50H said...

Moderate,

Gingrich passed most of his agenda? News to me. Last I heard, every single item of the "Contract with America" is toast. Since Clinton wanted to get things done, but all Bush wants to do is arrange for a permanent occupation of Iraq, the cases are totally different.

You seem to be suggesting that the breakup of the Whigs caused the Civil War. This is almost exactly backward. The issue of slavery broke up the Whigs and caused the Civil War.

In case you haven't been paying attention, these are pretty interesting times, with the USA occupying two middle-eastern countries and poised to attack a third, with nuclear weapons proliferating and in a fourth country possibly about to fall into extremist hands.

9:46 PM  
Blogger Maggie's Farm said...

I'm not surprised to see Huckabee get some traction. He'e evangelical, he's affable, he shares the president's good ol' boy plain spoken appeal, he has a record as an executive.
The thing is that the things that are propelling him now might defeat him later. We've seen this movie before. We've had our folksy good ol' boys. I think America is ready for a president who might actually be the smartest person in the room. I'm not suggesting that Huckabee is a dummy, but I don't thik he's that guy.

8:07 PM  
Blogger MARK said...

Im not surprised to see Huck get some traction either -- he gets the stupid vote.

Seriously -- he does.

Huck gets almost every vote cast by people who think the earth is 6,000 years old.

Huck gets almost every vote of those who don't realize the Fairtax is a complete farce.(google fairtax absurdity, if you don't believe me)

Huck gets almost every vote of everyone who doesn't know the truth of his love for taxing the workers more, and the rich less.

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