Mindless Yahooism
The New York Sun has a story quoting numerous New York state and city legislators who are threatening to retaliate against Columbia University if it allows Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to participate in its World Leaders Forum this afternoon. Here's a sampling:
Now I have no idea whether these politicians have the votes to carry through with their threats, but am I the only one who finds this kind of threat totally unacceptable and completely contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of the First Amendment? These legislators are threatening to use their official powers to punish a private university for engaging in an academic activity of which they do not approve. That would set a terrible precedent. Indeed, the threat alone sets a terrible precedent. It's hard to think of something more un-American than cracking down on a university for allowing an objectionable speaker to participate in an open forum.Bollinger made a big mistake, and there should be consequences for him for making that decision," the chairman of the New York City Council's Finance Committee, David Weprin, said in an interview. "We should look at everything involving Columbia, whether it be capital projects, city and state, or other related things that we do in the city for them," he said.
Mr. Weprin was one of several elected officials who joined Jewish leaders, Columbia students, and alumni yesterday at a demonstration at the Morningside Heights campus to protest Mr. Ahmadinejad's talk.
"It's not going to go away just because this episode ends. Columbia University has to know … that they will be penalized," an assemblyman of Brooklyn, Dov Hikind, who also attended the rally, said. The lawmaker said Mr. Ahmadinejad should be arrested when he sets foot on campus.[. . .]
Albany awards Columbia millions of dollars a year in student financial aid and also provides funding for smaller-scale capital projects. Last year, Albany awarded the school $10 million for nanotechnology center and $12 million for a cancer center in Washington Heights.
Columbia uses the state Dormitory Authority to borrow money at low interest rates. Mr. Silver could use his influence over the authority to weed out Columbia bonding projects before they are submitted for approval.
The school is also seeking approval from city lawmakers for its plan to expand into a 17-acre swath of land in West Harlem.
People really need to settle down and get a grip. This is nothing more than mindless yahooism at this point. We should be embarrassed.
UPDATE: A common talking point among the angry yahoo crowd is that by allowing Ahmadinejad to attend this forum, Columbia is somehow lending him and his views "legitimacy" that they would not otherwise have. For example, here's the King of the Yahoos, Hugh Hewitt:
For as long as we recall that Iran has been killing American soldiers and Marines, we will also recall that when Ahmadinejad came to the United States, it was Columbia that welcomed him and gave him a stage, a microphone, a vast audience and all the “prestige” and “legitimacy” Columbia can confer.This argument might make sense if Columbia was inviting some obscure nutjob off the street to participate in this forum, someone who had no other platform for airing his views. But Ahmadinejad is the president of an important country. That title, in and of itself, gives all the "legitimacy" he needs. When he talks, people listen. When he wants to give an interview, all the major news channels jump at the opportunity (he was on 60 Minutes just last night). When you reach that point, you don't need anyone's help getting your message out. You don't need a university to give you a stage and microphone.
While I understand the reasoning behind ignoring objectionable people who are incapable of commanding an audience on their own (in that case, providing a stage and microphone really would lend unwarranted legitimacy to the person), that's just not an option in Ahmadinejad's case. He's already a high-profile head of state. With someone like that, we've moved well past the "legitimacy" stage. It's far better to confront such a person and his views openly, rather than just ignore him.
UPDATE II: Euguene Volokh gets it exactly right:
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a bad and dangerous man, but it seems that Columbia was quite right to have him speak there as part of its World Leaders Forum. Columbia students can benefit from hearing bad world leaders as well as good ones; I'm pretty confident that most of the students in the audience will be able to tell one from the other — and if they're not, then the event offers a great opportunity for them to do so.And lest there be any confusion over whether Bollinger's invitation constituted an endorsement of Ahmadinejad's views, here's video of Bollinger's blistering introduction to Ahmadinejad's speech. For the better part of the past week, right wing bloggers and commentators have been accusing Bollinger of being some sort of anti-American leftist who sympathizes with Ahmadinejad and wants to embarrass President Bush by giving this man a platform to attack him. I wonder if any of them will take those accusations back now. Probably not. Yahoos don't care about facts.
If the event were some special honor for the person — as endowed lectures, "visiting public interest mentor" positions, graduation speeches, and the like often are — I would take a different view: A university should not honor the dishonorable. But my sense is that the World Leaders Forum does not carry the university's endorsement of the speaker's moral character, only of his significance on the world stage (which Ahmadinejad regrettably has plenty of).



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Please stop making so much sense, man, seriously! I wonder if this type of behavior would have been allowed (meaning the quotes from various local politicians) pre 9/11.
It's damn amusing, for sure.
I just heard some excerpts from Bollinger's introduction to Ahmadinejad. Ok, here's how I see this playing out. Columbia University President Lee Bollinger will now be accused of being a neocon, of contributing to the evil propaganda of the warmongering Chimpy McBushHitler regime, and of being completely disrespectful and insulting to a visiting head-of-state.
The only thing Bollinger could have done to complete this was to provide tomatoes and eggs that the audience could have thrown at the despicable "president" of Iran. Kudos to Bollinger.
Bush/Cheney getting two terms, the occupation of Iraq, the intent to bomb Iran, etc., etc. ad naseum....yep "Mindless Yahooism" pretty much covers it;)
For the better part of the past week, right wing bloggers and commentators have been accusing Bollinger of being some sort of anti-American leftist who sympathizes with Ahmadinejad and wants to embarrass President Bush by giving this man a platform to attack him. I wonder if any of them will take those accusations back now. Probably not. Yahoos don't care about facts.
Maybe you should read the comments on your own post before putting in such a ridiculous statement. I've already given Bollinger credit for his speech. So have others on Townhall.com.
Steveil,
Fair enough. Some are changing their tune. Many others are stubbornly sticking to the script, though, facts be damned. And it's also worth noting that Bollinger made clear over a week ago that this was exactly what he was going to do, so there's really no excuse for any of the attacks that have been leveled on him in the past week.
""""it was Columbia that welcomed him and gave him a stage, a microphone, a vast audience""""Sez Huie??
Did Mr. H bother to inform himself of the visit? I would not consider the university President's remarks much of a welcome. The 'audience' was given the spectacle of Mr. A being called ridiculous, uneducated, tyrannical and dishonest. And there was much more. This was a 15 minute slow motion castration constructed in a way that gave no possibility of face saving on the behalf of the Iranian leader. Columbia should be praised for having the courage to disregard its critics use of tactics similar to those used by Mr. A. To see is to believe...or in this case to disbelieve. A is a jerk and now we have it on video.
Fair enough. Some are changing their tune. Many others are stubbornly sticking to the script, though, facts be damned.
I agree, but I think some of those still venting their spleens are wondering what the point of this exercise was. I have to admit that I wonder about that too. I mean, what did it accomplish, what did it prove, rhetorically speaking?
And it's also worth noting that Bollinger made clear over a week ago that this was exactly what he was going to do, so there's really no excuse for any of the attacks that have been leveled on him in the past week.
Yes. However, for years all anybody hears from these university muckity-mucks is hatred of Bush for this, or hatred of Bush for that, and an almost insane defense of the actions of guys like Ahmadinejad. There's been a bunch of posts on the blogosphere that try to say Ahmadinejad is a "bad" guy, but are glad that he badmouths their President. Like many on my side, we didn't trust that Bollinger would say these things, especially since he did nothing to the students who disrupted the speeches from The Minutemen group, and who denies the ROTC from coming on to Columbia.
I think Bollinger's longwinded rant was one of the great COYA pre-emptive strikes of recent times and more than a little feckless. I fully expected at any moment for him to ask Ahmadinejad: "And by the way, do you beat your wife as much as you used to? Answer yes or no!"
Not that the charges Bollinger leveled at Ahmadinejad aren't serious and appalling. They certainly are. But there was an element of ambush and of misrepresentation that made Bollinger look bad in my eyes.
This is because, if I understand correctly, Ahmadinejad was invited to speak and to answer questions from students — not to debate the college president. Ahmadinejad certainly did not sign on to subject himself to a lengthy indictment by the college president, before he could even get a word in edgewise.
As a matter of fairness and common courtesy, Bollinger went too far and for too long, mainly to cover his butt from mindless yahoohism (excellent headline, that).
Steveil, you seem to have your superpatriot knickers twisted tight over this whole episode. You might want to at least consider this.
There are decent people in Iran, I'm sure, who do think generally well of the U.S. (or at least did before the Iraq invasion and botched occupation). These same people, I have read, are less than thrilled with their country's leaders, including Ahmadinejad.
And yet, when one of their leaders goes abroad representing their country and people, I wouldn't be surprised to learn they expect he will be treated with a certain level of courtesy, even if only pro forma. And if he is not, even though they might despise him, I expect they think less of the foreigners who sought to dress him down at length in a public forum.
Maybe Bollinger should've instead challeged Ahmadinejad to come and debate him. Had that been the case, all Bollinger said would've been fair enough.
But Bollinger didn't issue a debate invitation. In the context of what the Iranian president was invited for, he was treated in an unseemly way that reflects badly on Bollinger, on Columbia and on the U.S.
S.W. Anderson,
I do get that there are people in Iran who want Ahmadinajed and the mullahs out of power. A lot of them. Like I said, I wasn't at all unhappy about Bollinger's speech, but wonder what the point of it was. He didn't need to invite Ahmadinejad to slam him, and I can believe there will be people who believe Bollinger was very rude. There are a lot of us with our "superpatriot knickers twisted tight over this" who agree with what you are saying.
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