No Amnesty! (Unless it's for Scooter)
(updated below)
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, there is something incredibly revealing about the widespread demands by right-wing pundits and commentators that the President pardon Scooter Libby. Put simply, this is a crackpot view, an opinion that in any rational universe people would be embarrassed to express publicly. It is a testament to the paradigm-warping power of the right wing echo chamber that so many mainstream figures feel comfortable calling for such an unprecedented and unwarranted remedy.
A presidential pardon is an extraordinary remedy, one that--at least until a few months ago--was generally understood to be proper only in the most unusual of situations, situations where the system has totally broken down and no other remedy is available.
That this is not such a situation is so painfully obvious that even Andy McCarthy at the National Review--who has been known to endorse some rather extreme views--seems genuinely perplexed by his colleagues' crackpot views on this subject:
Moreover, and this is what really bothers me, the people who are complaining about Libby's sentence and demanding that it be commuted are--notably--not claiming that the sentencing guidelines themselves are unjust or should be amended. There's a strong case to be made, in my opinion, that the federal sentencing guidelines are excessive across the board. But the folks at the National Review and Weekly Standard don't care about the excessive sentences that are handed down every day in courtrooms all across the country. They want to treat Libby's case as a one-off situation.
They want extraordinary mercy to be shown to Libby, a man who has not yet even exhausted his appeals and who has, at every step of the way, been represented by the best lawyers money can buy and defended by many of the most powerful and influential figures in the government and media.
Libby's defenders often suggest that he is a victim of a politically-motivated prosecution, but this is such a transparently ludicrous claim that I scarcely know what to say. Libby repeatedly and intentionally misled a federal grand jury that had been convened by a Republican political appointee in a Republican-controlled Justice Department. Despite overwhelming evidence against him, he chose not to seek a plea agreement and instead go to trial, where he lost, badly (note to wingnuts: this is the obvious difference between Sandy Berger and Scooter Libby; Libby would likely have been able to avoid jail time too had he apologized and sought a plea agreement).
Rather than attempting to mitigate the situation he'd gotten himself into (through no one's fault but his own), Libby tried to shoot the moon and get off scot-free. And he didn't make it. Now his defenders want to bail him out with a pardon or a commutation of his sentence. But Libby is quite clearly not a deserving candidate for such extraordinary relief. If anything was unfair or improper about his trial or his sentencing, his very capable lawyers will make those arguments on appeal and a panel of very capable judges will hear them. That's how the system works. Presidential pardons are not supposed to be used as an alternative form of appeal for well-connected defendants.
A careful, sympathetic, conscientious jury convicted Libby beyond a reasonable doubt on four felony counts. He showed zero contrition and was therefore sentenced in accordance with federal guidelines and practice. If that's the sort of injustice that warrants a presidential pardon, then we might as well just empty the federal prisons and grant amnesty to every federal inmate.
Yeah, that's right, I said amnesty. Our friends on the Right have never been terribly good at maintaining logically consistent positions (see impeachment of Clinton, William J.), but has it occurred to anyone that the arguments being deployed against granting amnesty to illegal aliens apply with even more force to the granting of pardons to public officials who obstruct investigations (pardon is just another word for amnesty, after all)? Granting a pardon in this case would only encourage the next person who finds himself embroiled in a high-profile, politically-sensitive investigation to lie to investigators. That's why prosecutors are so adamant that those who commit obstruction of justice be prosecuted for it.
Bonus points for the first person to spot a car with both a "Free Scooter" and "No Amnesty" bumpersticker on it.
UPDATE: Wow. The award for craziest op-ed about Libby goes to this guy at the Wall Street Journal:
Libby isn't a fallen soldier. He's a convicted felon. There's an enormous difference.
UPDATE II: Comment of the day, from Mike:
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, there is something incredibly revealing about the widespread demands by right-wing pundits and commentators that the President pardon Scooter Libby. Put simply, this is a crackpot view, an opinion that in any rational universe people would be embarrassed to express publicly. It is a testament to the paradigm-warping power of the right wing echo chamber that so many mainstream figures feel comfortable calling for such an unprecedented and unwarranted remedy.
A presidential pardon is an extraordinary remedy, one that--at least until a few months ago--was generally understood to be proper only in the most unusual of situations, situations where the system has totally broken down and no other remedy is available.
That this is not such a situation is so painfully obvious that even Andy McCarthy at the National Review--who has been known to endorse some rather extreme views--seems genuinely perplexed by his colleagues' crackpot views on this subject:
Not that Scooter Libby has asked for my advice, but I also must say that that the ardor of his supporters — including, I believe, NR — has hurt him, and hurt the conservative movement, in very fundamental ways. As to him personally, all this passionate rhetoric about his heroic service to the United States, how the investigation should never have happened, and how he got unfairly singled out and screwed (all of which I agree with) would be fine if it weren't obscuring something fairly important: Lying to the FBI and a grand jury is a very bad thing, even if we all think it was an unworthy investigation.For all of these same reasons, the notion that Libby's sentence should be commuted--which was floated in an op-ed in the Washington Post today as some sort of "compromise" approach--is equally bizarre. Libby's sentence may seem excessive to some given the non-violent nature of his crimes, but the fact remains that he was sentenced in accordance with the sentencing guidelines. This is something I have some familiarity with, and I can tell you, people who show no contrition for their crimes are almost never treated leniently at sentencing. McCarthy's absolutely right about that.
The blather about the foibles of memory is just an excuse for people who don't want to confront that inconvenient fact. Foibles of memory come up in every trial — they were particularly highlighted in the Libby trial because the defense hoped to score points with them given the nature of the charges, but they were not materially different from what happens in every trial. That's why we have juries.
Witnesses have varying recollections, and juries sort it out. The evidence that Libby lied, rather than that he was confused, was compelling. And the jury was diligent: the post-verdict commentary showed that they liked and felt sorry for him, several thought there should have been no case, some openly hoped for a pardon, and on the one count where the evidence was considerably weaker than the others, they acquitted him. They convicted him on the other four charges, reluctantly, because they had no choice if they were going to honor their oaths. And I respectfully think it's very presumptuous of people who were not there and did not spend nearly the time and attention the jurors did on Libby's case, to continue saying that the jury got it wrong and this was just a case of faulty memory.
By ignoring all that, and by railing as if Libby deserves an apology rather than acknowledging that he did a bad thing, Libby's supporters have made it easier for him to avoid doing something that would have put him in much better stead with the sentencing judge and would position him much better for a pardon: Utter the words "I'm sorry," in a way that communicates an awareness and some real contrition over the lying. Judges who've sat on cases where the evidence of wrongdoing is compelling expect a defendant — especially a smart, accomplished defendant — to express awareness and remorse; when the defendant fails to do that, it is not at all unusual for a judge to hammer him. The message from Scooter supporters here and elsewhere that he's got nothing to apologize for is not doing him any favors.
Admitting wrongdoing and saying you're sorry comes with some risk — it hurts a defendant's chances on appeal. But I don't think he's got much of a shot on appeal anyway. Moreover, he lives in a country where no one ever has to lie, or even speak — he could have refused to answer the questions unless they gave him immunity. He ought to be sorry and he ought to say so. And, obviously, President Bush has the power to pardon him no matter what anyone advises, but I can tell you that the Pardon Attorney at DOJ is not likely to be very favorably impressed by a "woe is me" petition from someone who doesn't seem to grasp that lying to investigators, especially when done by a public official, is dishonorable behavior.
Moreover, and this is what really bothers me, the people who are complaining about Libby's sentence and demanding that it be commuted are--notably--not claiming that the sentencing guidelines themselves are unjust or should be amended. There's a strong case to be made, in my opinion, that the federal sentencing guidelines are excessive across the board. But the folks at the National Review and Weekly Standard don't care about the excessive sentences that are handed down every day in courtrooms all across the country. They want to treat Libby's case as a one-off situation.
They want extraordinary mercy to be shown to Libby, a man who has not yet even exhausted his appeals and who has, at every step of the way, been represented by the best lawyers money can buy and defended by many of the most powerful and influential figures in the government and media.
Libby's defenders often suggest that he is a victim of a politically-motivated prosecution, but this is such a transparently ludicrous claim that I scarcely know what to say. Libby repeatedly and intentionally misled a federal grand jury that had been convened by a Republican political appointee in a Republican-controlled Justice Department. Despite overwhelming evidence against him, he chose not to seek a plea agreement and instead go to trial, where he lost, badly (note to wingnuts: this is the obvious difference between Sandy Berger and Scooter Libby; Libby would likely have been able to avoid jail time too had he apologized and sought a plea agreement).
Rather than attempting to mitigate the situation he'd gotten himself into (through no one's fault but his own), Libby tried to shoot the moon and get off scot-free. And he didn't make it. Now his defenders want to bail him out with a pardon or a commutation of his sentence. But Libby is quite clearly not a deserving candidate for such extraordinary relief. If anything was unfair or improper about his trial or his sentencing, his very capable lawyers will make those arguments on appeal and a panel of very capable judges will hear them. That's how the system works. Presidential pardons are not supposed to be used as an alternative form of appeal for well-connected defendants.
A careful, sympathetic, conscientious jury convicted Libby beyond a reasonable doubt on four felony counts. He showed zero contrition and was therefore sentenced in accordance with federal guidelines and practice. If that's the sort of injustice that warrants a presidential pardon, then we might as well just empty the federal prisons and grant amnesty to every federal inmate.
Yeah, that's right, I said amnesty. Our friends on the Right have never been terribly good at maintaining logically consistent positions (see impeachment of Clinton, William J.), but has it occurred to anyone that the arguments being deployed against granting amnesty to illegal aliens apply with even more force to the granting of pardons to public officials who obstruct investigations (pardon is just another word for amnesty, after all)? Granting a pardon in this case would only encourage the next person who finds himself embroiled in a high-profile, politically-sensitive investigation to lie to investigators. That's why prosecutors are so adamant that those who commit obstruction of justice be prosecuted for it.
Bonus points for the first person to spot a car with both a "Free Scooter" and "No Amnesty" bumpersticker on it.
UPDATE: Wow. The award for craziest op-ed about Libby goes to this guy at the Wall Street Journal:
In "The Soldier's Creed," there is a particularly compelling principle: "I will never leave a fallen comrade." This is a cherished belief, and it has been so since soldiers and chroniclers and philosophers thought about wars and great, common endeavors. Across time and space, cultures, each in its own way, have given voice to this most basic of beliefs. They have done it, we know, to give heart to those who embark on a common mission, to give them confidence that they will not be given up under duress. A process that yields up Scooter Libby to a zealous prosecutor is justice gone awry.In case the war analogy wasn't clear, he adds: "Scooter Libby was a soldier in your--our--war in Iraq" and ends with this:
Scooter Libby was there for the beginning of that campaign. He can't be left behind as a casualty of a war our country had once proudly claimed as its own.What planet does this guy live on? Scooter Libby is not and was not a soldier in anything. He was a public official who was intimately involved in the events that led to the outing of an undercover CIA officer. That's what Fitzgerald was investigating, not the war in Iraq or anything remotely related to the war in Iraq. And Libby lied and obstructed that investigation, crimes for which he was convicted beyond all reasonable doubt by a jury of his peers.
Libby isn't a fallen soldier. He's a convicted felon. There's an enormous difference.
UPDATE II: Comment of the day, from Mike:
The Fitzgerald investigation was 100% a perjury trap. It put Libby into a position where the only alternative to perjury was to violate one of his boss's fundamental principles by telling the truth.



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Bonus points for the first person to spot a car with both a "Free Scooter" and "No Amnesty" bumpersticker on it.
I WIN!!!!
I saw a big ol' stretch limo with those bumper stickers and a vanity license plate that said VIP 1
But the folks at the National Review and Weekly Standard don't care about the excessive sentences that are handed down every day in courtrooms all across the country.
You've got that right. Non-violent felons are sentenced to a lot longer than 30 months every day.
Other than shared use of the term "amnesty" I do not really understand the logic of linking a proposed Libby pardon to the immigration legislation. A little too cute for me this time.
I'm sure if you were to make these comments on any conservative blog, you'd find that there is no perception of inconsistency here.
I had already seen multiple calls for Libby to give up his citizenship so he could qualify for "amnesty" under the proposed bill before Congress.
This Libby situation has brought out all the best of the right-wing set:
1. insane conflation with Berger, Clinton, illegal immigration
2. elevation of Victoria Toensing to a status equal to that of the Supreme Court in determining meaning and legality of the law in question (last I heard, she hadn't even been nominated, let alone confirmed as SCOTUS)
3. putting words into the mouths of Plame and Wilson which they never uttered
4. they just spout crap and, even when it is pointed out that there is no original or definitive source for the "facts" they claim, they prefer to believe it than to accept countervailing facts as evidence.
The whole Free Scooter movement has now reached the status of dogma. Searching for rational justifications among the "free Scooter" supporters is pointless.
We can only hope that Walton refuses bail and that Bush pardons Scooter or commutes his sentence so that the public (those capable of rationality, at least) can see just how completely Bush and Co. despise the rule of law.
What really got me about William Otis' piece in the WaPo was when he said Scooter doesn't really need to serve jail time b/c as a non-violent offender he's not a threat to society.
Do I hear Otis arguing against the concept of jail time for ALL non-violent offenders? Or is he, as you pointed out elsewhere, simply calling for Libby to receive special treatment because he was a dedicated member of the Bush Admin?
Do I hear Otis arguing against the concept of jail time for ALL non-violent offenders? Or is he, as you pointed out elsewhere, simply calling for Libby to receive special treatment because he was a dedicated member of the Bush Admin?
I'm guessing the latter. Though I don't have the stats on me, I'd venture a guess that MOST federal inmates are there for non-violent crimes, things like drug-possession, securities fraud, etc.
As anyone familiar with the sentencing guidelines knows (and Otis is definitely such a person), the guidelines call for very stiff sentence for whole bunch of non-violent crimes.
(note to wingnuts: this is the obvious difference between Sandy Berger and Scooter Libby; Libby would likely have been able to avoid jail time too had he apologized and sought a plea agreement).
Note to moonbats - Berger was offered a chance to plead to a misdemeanor and keep his law license (which he later surrendered rather than submit to questioning from the DC Bar). Who seriously thinks Fitzgerld would have let Libby off so easily? Feel free to link to any credible speculation supporting that, because I don't credit it for a second.
Libby's defenders often suggest that he is a victim of a politically-motivated prosecution, but this is such a transparently ludicrous claim that I scarcely know what to say. L
So your view is that Comey, who appointed Fitzgerald, was not at odds with the White House? Maybe I have misread accounts of his role in the NSA scandal, on which Cheney and Libby were lead players.
And Schumer wasn't screaming for a special prosecutor, the press was not howling, etc. Bush's people figured they could throw Libby under the bus and protect themselves for the '04 election - hiding everything behind grand jury secrecy is now a standard Washington ploy.
If you think all politics is Republican versus Democrat, you ought to re-think.
As to Fitzgerald's political motivations - I'll accept that he did not have them, but so what? He was appointed to fill a particular political role (investigate the White House but not State) and did so.
Tom Maguire
To help limit your search for credible speculation that Libby might have been offered a misdemeanor plea, let me steer you away from Jeralyn Merrit, who as you know has followed this closely:
By this time, major players like Karl Rove have accepted that any deal will include a felony conviction. Right now, the critical issue is whether they can avoid jail.
That was her pre-indictment speculation. I can't guess why that view would have changed.
Tom Maguire
Tom,
Since Rove, who was clearly implicated in this mess, did manage to avoid prosecution by (apparently) "restating his testimony" to the GJ, there is every evidence that Libby, too, would have been able to.
Libby's problem was that any even marginally believable story in his case would have implicated the VP, and of course, he couldn't allow that to happen.
Put yourself in Libby's place. He knew that the conspiracy had been hatched by Cheney. He knew that Cheney had had him try to spread the word. What story could he have possibly told that would have kept Cheney out of the line of fire?
Sadly, Libby picked a stupid story and then, when confronted by facts that proved him a liar, piled another lie (it was as if I'd heard it for the first time!) on top of it.
Fitz did the best he could for the government. He knew he couldn't whitewash the problem, much as he may have wished to. He picked a sacrificial goat, and he went with the flow.
Cheney should be impeached for his part in this alone.
By this time, major players like Karl Rove have accepted that any deal will include a felony conviction. Right now, the critical issue is whether they can avoid jail.
That was her pre-indictment speculation. I can't guess why that view would have changed.
First of all, Tom, this is just speculation. Who knows what Fitzgerald would have ultimately been willing to accept, particularly if Libby had been willing to tell the truth about others in exchange for a lesser plea. Second, I never said that he would have been able to plead to a misdemeanor. Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't have. But he might well have been able to avoid jail time, and would, at the very least, have received a significanly shorter sentence.
Since Rove, who was clearly implicated in this mess, did manage to avoid prosecution by (apparently) "restating his testimony" to the GJ, there is every evidence that Libby, too, would have been able to.
Excellent point. Rove's close escape is a very instructive example of what Libby might have been able to swing if he decided to come clean.
So your view is that Comey, who appointed Fitzgerald, was not at odds with the White House? Maybe I have misread accounts of his role in the NSA scandal, on which Cheney and Libby were lead players.
Tom, check your timeline. Comey appointed Fitzgerald as one of his first acts as DAG. There was no bad blood at that point. People at the DOJ came to him on his first day, explained the situation, explained why Ashcroft was conflicted, and Comey dealt with it.
Plus, Comey is loyal Republican and a straight-shooter. Trust me on that one. He is the last person in the world who would harbor any desire to create a politicized prosecution. And even if you think the worst about him, he hadn't been in his job long enough to create enemies.
You write:
He was appointed to fill a particular political role (investigate the White House but not State) and did so.
On what do possibly base that? Why would Comey or Fitzgerald have some sort of vendetta against the White House or alliance with the State Department. That's nonsense. Fitzgerald was appointed because the people running the investigation suspected that Rove and Libby were lying them and thought John Ascroft was too close to Rove (Rove had worked for him) to ethically oversee such an investigation.
And Schumer wasn't screaming for a special prosecutor, the press was not howling, etc. Bush's people figured they could throw Libby under the bus and protect themselves for the '04 election - hiding everything behind grand jury secrecy is now a standard Washington ploy.
What does Schumer have to do with it? Democrats wanted a special prosecutor because it looked like a crime had been committed and they didn't trust Ashcroft to pursue it. But it was Comey who made the decision (not the White House) and Comey did it only becuase the people running the investigation (career prosecutors) thought that Ashcroft was conflicted.
And by the way, the idea that Fitzgerald's investigation ran amok strikes me as crazy. He never exceeded the bounds of his mandate, he kept everything secret (unlike Ken Starr and others) and he made very conservative and judicious prosecutorial decisions (not indicting Rove, for example). Libby was indicted because he was the one who lied repeatedly and blatantly to investigators.
Excellent point. Rove's close escape is a very instructive example of what Libby might have been able to swing if he decided to come clean.
Please. Rove's story just did not change that much; originally he said he forgot about his exchange with Cooper; when confronted with emails (very belatedly, maybe off the RNC server), he remembered.
The FBI didn't like his Novak story (they thought "I heard that, too" was pretty weak until Cooper said he got the same confirmation from Libby), but that story never changed.
You are guessing that Fitzgerald would have called Libby in and let him tell a brand new story implicating Cheney, and that Libby had such a story to tell. Maybe.
Look, Fitzgerald talked to Cheney. If Cheney specifically denied speaking to Libby about Plame, he would have been called by the defense; if he admitted it, he would have been called by the prosecution.
Cheney almost certainly went with "I forget, who cared?", and Libby remembering wasn't going to affect that.
Even if Fitzgerald could get past the obvious Constitutional questions and refer an impeachment to the Rep controlled house.
Tom, check your timeline. Comey appointed Fitzgerald as one of his first acts as DAG. There was no bad blood at that point.
Ahh, Comey knew nothing at all about the NSA or the Libby involvement in it until a few weeks later. Uh huh.
On what do possibly base that? Why would Comey or Fitzgerald have some sort of vendetta against the White House or alliance with the State Department. That's nonsense.
I base that on his non-investigation of State and his diligent pursuit of a perjury case against Libby - that is what was handed to him, and that is what he followed.
Vendetta and alliance are your words - Schumer and the press wanted the White House probed, DoJ wanted to escape the heat, so they probed the White House. Too complicated?
And please don't tell me State was looked at - the AP found Woodward on Armitage's appointment calendar for June 13, but Fitzgerald couldn't figure out the two of them talked about Plame?
And by the way, the idea that Fitzgerald's investigation ran amok strikes me as crazy.
I will have a better sense after we see the still-sealed affidavit persuading the Miller court to jail Judy. He had to know at that poit his only real case was perjury, but I strongly bet he misled the court with a pretence that he was probing a leak.
Not probing hard enough to subpoena Dickerson, Gregory, or Mitchell, but probing.
"On what do possibly base that?"
Um, midichlorians?
"He had to know at that poit his only real case was perjury, but I strongly bet he misled the court with a pretence that he was probing a leak."
Oh please. Had Scooter cracked and fessed up, the leak investigation would have been able to progress. It could *still* progress.
It is amazing that the media is treating Scooter like he is Huey Newton. The media and Libby's supporters can dissect this case like a frog and claim Scooter Libby's innocence for all they want. The bottomline is that the jurors found Scooter Libby guilty in 4 or 5 counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. Scooter was not the victim. Scooter was simply taken the fall for the real mastermind of the WH plot to punish Wilson: Dick Cheney. Wr sae that through the exhibit the prosecution team presented such as Cheney's fixation and handwriting on the Wilson's article, the handwritten notes that had Bush's name crossed out, and so on. This is simply diversion to sway the public of the two main important WH officials who haven't been charged yet in the CIA Leak case that were heavily involved in punishing Wilson: Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. The media need to do their homework and go back to review on the timeline presented by the prosecution, the GJ transcripts, and Libby's charges. I look forward to CIA leak case to be reopened again.
The Fitzgerald investiagation was 100% a perjury trap. It put Libby into a position where the only alternative to perjury was to violate one of his boss's fundamental principles by telling the truth.
Tom,
Libby did change his story, but never managed to get one that would stand up in court.
Libby could have said "I heard it from the VP, but he didn't indicate that Plame was covert."
This might have given him the Armitage defense, and, unless Cheney contradicted him, he'd have walked.
However, it would have implicated the VP, who had to have known Plame was covert, and it would have hurt the GOP's chances in the 2006 elections...
Free Paris, causalty of war!
{ ducks }
"Families don't get touched." - Tony Soprano, from last week's episode
"Wilson's wife is fair game." - Karl Rove to reporters, shortly after the outing of covert operative Valerie Plame
Yeah, let's show leniency to a guy from a crew less moral than a Mafia family.
You have to love the admission that it is against bushie & CO's policies to tell the truth. (different tom)
I just finished reading Libby's "Motion for Release Pending Appeal" that was linked in the comments on the Free Scooter! post.
http://www.talkleft.com/LibbyTrial/bailpendingappeal.pdf
The thrust of it is that Libby should remain free pending appeal because there is likelihood of the appeal court's disagreeing with rulings Judge Walton made during the trial. I must say, as a non-lawyer, I find the arguments convincing.
They suggest that Walton, in trying to be even-handed, denied Libby a fair trial. Testimony and witnessess that could have bolstered Libby's defense were not allowed, particularly the memory expert. They point out that one of the jurors even asked during deliberations why no memory expert was presented. They quote from the Washington Post.
The denial on Andrea Mitchell's testimony seems unfair, and they take issue with rulings based on Libby's not testifying when they had never asserted whether he would or would not.
I'd be interested in hearing a lawyer's opinion on the motion.
I'd be interested in hearing a lawyer's opinion on the motion.
I've read the motion and, though I'm not all that familiar with this particular area of criminal procedure, the motion strikes me as somewhat persuasive, particularly on the constitutional appointment question. That's the kind of issue I can totally see a panel of the D.C. Circuit reversing. I'm not sure what the consequences of such a reversal would be though.
The other issues strike me as weaker. To win on appeal you not only have to show that the judge abused his discretion, but that the error would have changed the outcome. That's tough to do.
That said, I really have no problem with Libby being allowed to stay out of jail pending appeal. So long as he eventually serves his time (if he loses), I don't think there's anything improper about granting him an appeal bond.
Was the crime really nonviolent? We will never know what happened to Valerie Plame's contacts overseas after her cover was blown. It is entirely possible that people are dead as a direct result of Cheney/Libby's actions.
Up above "Anonymous" said: "Other than shared use of the term "amnesty" I do not really understand the logic of linking a proposed Libby pardon to the immigration legislation. "
Wait. Get that again:
"Other than shared use of the term "amnesty" I do not really understand the logic of linking a proposed Libby pardon to the immigration legislation."
Isn't the shared use of the term "amnesty", which has overrun past Eve'n'Adam the public conversation these past weeks MORE THAN ENOUGH?
Thanks a.l.
Re the "constitutional appointment question"
I had just skimmed that part of the motion because of the legalese. I re-read it but still don't get the implications. Could you explain it in lay terms?
It really makes me sick to my stomach watching all these right-wing cowards falling over themselves to be complicit in the crime of betraying their country. In my mind it shows what complete psychopaths they really are. They will be remembered for the treasonous filth that they are.
Hmmm. If Scooter Libby is a "fallen soldier," then what are Valerie Plame-Wilson and any other undercover CIA counterproliferation operatives outed collaterally by the 'friendly fire' of the Bush/Rove/Cheney Administration?
Were they not also soldiers in the fight against actual WMDs and real terrorists? Or are we to mourn only highly-placed REMFs who got caught lying while chasing a chimeric, oil-soaked Republican war fantasy?
The Neocons' Creed: I will never leave a fallen chickenhawk.
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