Yoo vs. Yoo
John Yoo, the former Justice Department attorney responsible for opinions justifying--among other things--torture and warrantless surveillance, penned an op-ed in Sunday's New York Times once again defending the administration's actions and the legal theories underlying them.
In the op-ed, Yoo makes the extraordinary claim that "the founders intended that wrongheaded or obsolete legislation and judicial decisions would be checked by presidential action." That is such a ridiculous statement that I don't even know what to say. Glenn probably puts it best when asks:
Needless to say, that's just not how our system is supposed to work. Indeed, that's not how any functioning democracy works. An argument can be made that the president has the power to disregard laws which he has good reason to believe are unconstitutional, but to my knowledge, no one other than John Yoo has ever even suggested that the president can simply disregard laws he believes to be unwise or outdated.
But let's indulge Yoo for a moment and pretend that we live in a country where the founders really did intend for the president to have such powers. Just what are these obsolete and wrongheaded laws to which Yoo refers?
Well, Yoo singles out the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) for ridicule, describing it as a product of Nixon era "paranoia"; he observes, almost scornfully, that this bit of Watergate-era Congressional overreach actually "required the government to get a warrant from a special court to conduct wiretapping for national security reasons." What a nutty idea. How utterly wrongheaded and obsolete.
Yoo observes that "[t]hese statutes have produced little but dysfunction" and specifically blames FISA for erecting "the wall between intelligence and law enforcement that contributed to our failure to stop the 9/11 attacks."
He then blames Congress for failing to do anything about these obsolete laws:
And again toward the end of the op-ed:
But hold on a minute. Has Congress really been asleep at the switch since the 1970s? I seem to remember a major push by the White House and Congress following 9/11 to update the very laws which Yoo is describing as relics of a bygone age. Perhaps we should turn the way-back machine to 2003. Here's John Yoo again, this time in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal (along with Eric Posner):
Well, it's good to know that FISA is constitutional, because we certainly wouldn't want the president to have to use his power to--as Yoo puts it--"sidestep laws that invade his executive authority." But we're in Yoo-land, so the question of FISA's constitutionality takes a backseat to a more pressing question: is FISA "wrongheaded and obsolete"?
For the answer, we return to Yoo (in 2003):
Okay, so according to Yoo (in 2003), Congress updated FISA right after 9/11 to eliminate the one negative aspect of the law highlighted by Yoo (in 2006). How strange.
But surely the rest of FISA is still "wrongheaded and obsolete," right? After all, the president has told us again and again that FISA was enacted at a time when there were only landlines and rotary telephones. And according to the talking points the NSA itself recently issued to Republican senators:
But wait, let's go back to John Yoo in 2003:
These guys really are incredible, aren't they? It doesn't matter what they were arguing even five minutes ago. They're willing to turn on a dime and say the exact opposite thing if the need suddenly arises. Back before the warrantless surveillance program was exposed, John Yoo and others (including the President himself) were concerned only with defending the Patriot Act. They were busy arguing to anyone who would listen that the Patriot Act modernized FISA to take into account advances in technology and the threat posed by terrorism. They argued that the new, revised FISA struck the ideal balance between national security concerns and civil liberties. Indeed, when Senator DeWine proposed amending FISA further in 2002 to give the administration even more surveillance authority, the administration actually opposed the bill, arguing that the Patriot Act had rendered FISA sufficiently agile and flexible and that DeWine's amendment was unnecessary and potentially unconstitutional.
But then, almost 9 months ago, the New York Times reported that the Bush administration had been secretly conducting warrantless surveillance in violation of FISA since shortly after 9/11, something both Bush and Yoo had obviously known about as they were going around remarking how wonderful and modern FISA had become thanks to the Patriot Act. But when it became clear that the administration had not been following FISA, suddenly it was as if the Patriot Act had never existed. FISA was once again an obsolete relic, an out-dated law passed by a paranoid post-Watergate Congress that had never heard of cellphones or terrorists.
I guess what I'm trying to say is this: there is nothing these guys are unwilling to do or say when it comes to this issue. They are unburdened by any desire to stay true to the facts, the law, or even their own previous statements. Caveat lector, folks.
In the op-ed, Yoo makes the extraordinary claim that "the founders intended that wrongheaded or obsolete legislation and judicial decisions would be checked by presidential action." That is such a ridiculous statement that I don't even know what to say. Glenn probably puts it best when asks:
Why is it even necessary to point out that the U.S. President does not have the power to violate laws which he thinks are "wrongheaded or obsolete," or that Presidents have no authority to disregard "wrongheaded or obsolete judicial decisions" (whatever that might mean)?
Needless to say, that's just not how our system is supposed to work. Indeed, that's not how any functioning democracy works. An argument can be made that the president has the power to disregard laws which he has good reason to believe are unconstitutional, but to my knowledge, no one other than John Yoo has ever even suggested that the president can simply disregard laws he believes to be unwise or outdated.
But let's indulge Yoo for a moment and pretend that we live in a country where the founders really did intend for the president to have such powers. Just what are these obsolete and wrongheaded laws to which Yoo refers?
Well, Yoo singles out the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) for ridicule, describing it as a product of Nixon era "paranoia"; he observes, almost scornfully, that this bit of Watergate-era Congressional overreach actually "required the government to get a warrant from a special court to conduct wiretapping for national security reasons." What a nutty idea. How utterly wrongheaded and obsolete.
Yoo observes that "[t]hese statutes have produced little but dysfunction" and specifically blames FISA for erecting "the wall between intelligence and law enforcement that contributed to our failure to stop the 9/11 attacks."
He then blames Congress for failing to do anything about these obsolete laws:
Our legislators rarely turn their attention to the problems created by laws that are old and obsolete, or of dubious relevance to new issues.
And again toward the end of the op-ed:
Congress has for years been avoiding its duty to revamp or repeal outmoded parts of bygone laws in the light of contemporary threats.
But hold on a minute. Has Congress really been asleep at the switch since the 1970s? I seem to remember a major push by the White House and Congress following 9/11 to update the very laws which Yoo is describing as relics of a bygone age. Perhaps we should turn the way-back machine to 2003. Here's John Yoo again, this time in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal (along with Eric Posner):
The Patriot Act's most controversial provisions concern electronic surveillance of individuals who threaten national security. But the act did not initiate this practice. The system of secret search and wiretap warrants, granted in a secret hearing by a group of federal judges, without notice to the target, was established 25 years ago by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. FISA was passed because before 1978 authorities could conduct searches to stop threats to national security without any judicial warrants at all. No court has ever found FISA to be unconstitutional, and just last year a special panel of federal appeals court judges reviewed the Patriot Act's central modification of FISA and unanimously found it constitutional.
Well, it's good to know that FISA is constitutional, because we certainly wouldn't want the president to have to use his power to--as Yoo puts it--"sidestep laws that invade his executive authority." But we're in Yoo-land, so the question of FISA's constitutionality takes a backseat to a more pressing question: is FISA "wrongheaded and obsolete"?
For the answer, we return to Yoo (in 2003):
Before the Patriot Act, FISA warrants were issued upon a showing that the "primary purpose" of the surveillance was to gather foreign intelligence information. Both the Department of Justice and the special FISA court that issued the warrants interpreted this language, for reasons known only to themselves, to mean that any such information gathered by counter-intelligence services could not be shared, except under rare circumstances, with law enforcement officials. This "wall" prevented law enforcement officials and counter-intelligence officials from pooling their information--a dangerous and stupid practice given that al Qaeda has demonstrated that terrorists can easily operate outside and inside the United States.
The Patriot Act changed the warrant standard from "primary purpose" to "significant purpose" in order to eliminate the wall of separation between foreign threats and domestic crimes, and to allow law enforcement to be used as a weapon against terrorism.
Okay, so according to Yoo (in 2003), Congress updated FISA right after 9/11 to eliminate the one negative aspect of the law highlighted by Yoo (in 2006). How strange.
But surely the rest of FISA is still "wrongheaded and obsolete," right? After all, the president has told us again and again that FISA was enacted at a time when there were only landlines and rotary telephones. And according to the talking points the NSA itself recently issued to Republican senators:
Current law is not agile enough to handle the threat posed by sophisticated international terrorist organizations such as al Qa'ida. This is because the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, or "FISA," has not kept pace with communications technology and was not designed for the types of threats we now face. . . . FISA should be amended so that it is technologically neutral.
But wait, let's go back to John Yoo in 2003:
Much of the rest of the Patriot Act contains similar common-sense adjustments that modernize existing laws, like FISA. FISA warrants, for example, are now technology-neutral; i.e., they allow continuing surveillance of a terrorist target even if he switches communication devices and methods.
These guys really are incredible, aren't they? It doesn't matter what they were arguing even five minutes ago. They're willing to turn on a dime and say the exact opposite thing if the need suddenly arises. Back before the warrantless surveillance program was exposed, John Yoo and others (including the President himself) were concerned only with defending the Patriot Act. They were busy arguing to anyone who would listen that the Patriot Act modernized FISA to take into account advances in technology and the threat posed by terrorism. They argued that the new, revised FISA struck the ideal balance between national security concerns and civil liberties. Indeed, when Senator DeWine proposed amending FISA further in 2002 to give the administration even more surveillance authority, the administration actually opposed the bill, arguing that the Patriot Act had rendered FISA sufficiently agile and flexible and that DeWine's amendment was unnecessary and potentially unconstitutional.
But then, almost 9 months ago, the New York Times reported that the Bush administration had been secretly conducting warrantless surveillance in violation of FISA since shortly after 9/11, something both Bush and Yoo had obviously known about as they were going around remarking how wonderful and modern FISA had become thanks to the Patriot Act. But when it became clear that the administration had not been following FISA, suddenly it was as if the Patriot Act had never existed. FISA was once again an obsolete relic, an out-dated law passed by a paranoid post-Watergate Congress that had never heard of cellphones or terrorists.
I guess what I'm trying to say is this: there is nothing these guys are unwilling to do or say when it comes to this issue. They are unburdened by any desire to stay true to the facts, the law, or even their own previous statements. Caveat lector, folks.



8 Comments:
As usual, great points - not only are these guys unwilling to do or say anything, and operate unburdened by any desire to stay true to the facts, the law, or even their own previous statements, they revel in this.
The neocons/conservatives actually take pride in their ability to lie and mislead with logical inconsistencies - it is a point of honor.
There is no dialog with them and there cannot be a debate - their ideology demands that they say whatever is necessary to generate support or at least the illusion of support among a group of American's that will never benefit from the neocon/repug agenda.
Yes, it is appropriate for us to dissect what they say and present clear analysis about the inconsistencies, inaccuracies, lies, and even crimes.
In the end, it matters not a wit to them. I don't know if this is just arrogance on their part or if the need to mislead and lie is actually a fundamental principal to their agenda.
The "anti-kool" aid, the truth, is an important part of the dialog - we need more American's to recognize how this administration and its policies is detrimental to the best-interests of most US citizens.
Let's not kid ourselves, however. Those that steal elections, exploit terrorism, rule based on fear, commit treason, war crimes, and crimes against humanity do not care one bit about the irrational assumptions and outright lies they use to advance their policies and agenda.
After all, they had to by lying liars to get in power in the first place.
GREAT CRIMES DEMAND EVEN MORE CRIMINALITY!
I like how even as we learn more and more about the President blatantly violating existing laws and his only "defense" is to push for laws that retroactively cover his ass.
Torture and the callingof the Geneva Conventions as "quaint", illegal domestic spying, sham trials with clasified evidence the accused is not alowed to see or contest, and indefinate imprisonment of both US & foreign persons not connected to the war, and those are just that programs that, when looking at the totality of evidence as well as the denials & side-stepping of questions on these programs, we are led to strongly believe to exist.
Clinton lied in court & got impeached. What on earth does Bush have to do, considering his ctimes have dwarfed Clinton's? Currently, Bush, Cheney & Rimsfeld need to be removed from office, their crimes investigated, and, if need be, they should be prosecuted for war crimes.
Let's hope the pro-impeachment side is waiting on Demoicrats re-taking the House so they'll be 4th in line for succession instead of the current Denny Hastart.
This current crop in the White House is a dangerous criminal bunch. If democrats don't win any conrol this year, we're done for. It will be seen as a mandate bu Bush to carry on.
And may god have mercy on us all.
Great writing. Thanks, and congrats on the C&L link.
Here's Yoo's "reasoning" in the NY Times Op Ed.
1. Lots of Presidents have gotten away with starting wars without a declaration by Congress.
2. Therefore, the President has legal authority to go to war without a declaration by Congress.
Umm....the Congress and the courts failed to preserve, protect and defend the constitution while the president violated it...so, that's okay? That means we should forget that "Congress declares war"?
Maybe it means we should ENFORCE the Constitution and throw out the motherf%ckers in all three branches who violated their oaths to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution....
Thank you for finding the exact same words out of Yoo's mouth. I posted a comment at Glenn Greenwald's, as well, pointing out that Yoo's claim that the Hamden decision was more about SCOTUS "frustration with Congress" rather than curtailing the Presidents power is a complete falsehood. Stevens majority opinion took direct aim at the Executive Branch, and Scalia's minority dissent dealt pretty much exclusively with his frustration with the majority opinion. Not Congress.
But as you said, that's Yoo-land. UBerkeley really needs to do some housecleaning.
AL I would assume the New York Times has a Letters to the Editor feature and with a touch of editing for length and a few clicks of the mouse you should be able to submit this for publication.
Your anonymity may be an issue for you. If so it can be submitted by someone else. Some newspapers have caught on to form and chain Letters to the Editor authored by others and submitted around the country by many different people, but often still print them. Yours would be a bit different in that respect, more targeted and no mass production.
I could do it myself with copy, paste and click, anyone could really, but you seem more tuned in to the legal aspect for rebuttal purposes.
Just a thought.
Laws make things untidy for a purpose.
Arbitrary enforcement of 'justice' remains a highly subjective experience.
'Dirty Harry' movies were popular because the public does not exercise
with a judicial regimen. Criminals ignore the legal system until it benefits them to fully exercise their rights. Frustration with 'poison fruit' evidence and the subsequent release of perps who were obviously guilty to any observer, made street corner justice, in fantasy, a viable alternative. This admin has decided to take Eastwood movies and make them real. Bush and Crew see themselves as
Benevolent Dictators and see no Consititutional inconsistency in their behaviors. Subverted by ingroup mentality, they have stewed in their own proverbial juices so long that hemlock tastes like tonic. It's time for them to go.
I had to make an audio mashup of Woo and Bush's disturbing comments. Listen to the Yoo-Tang Clan.
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