Wednesday, August 02, 2006

Is Moderation Necessary?

In an article for the American Prospect, Scott Winship weighs in on the debate over whether the "netroots" (i.e. liberal bloggers and activists) are ideologues intent driving the Democratic party leftward or pragmatists intent on helping the party win. Winship writes:

Reading the major blogs oriented toward the netroots
community, it is difficult to discern issue priorities or positions
that are shared and emphasized by a strong majority of
netroots members, with two important exceptions to which I
will return later. In this sense, the netroots really are
non-ideological. Moulitsas and others have repeatedly described
themselves as primarily concerned with winning and building a
majority. Hence, they will generally support relatively moderate
candidates in red states. Their only litmus test, they claim, is
that Democrats must not shy away from or undermine the party.

That pretty much squares with my sense of what animates the netroots, and it flies squarely in the face of know-nothings like David Brooks and Marshall Wittman who insist that the liberal bloggers are a bunch of far-left "McGovernites with modems."

Winship then describes the two "exceptions":

As noted, while the Pew data indicates that the netroots is
almost uniformly liberal, there are few specific issues that
serve as ideological litmus tests. However, the more time one
spends on the major community-oriented political blogs, the
more clearly two shared orientations emerge: opposition to the
Iraq War and to the ongoing occupation, and a pervasive
populism expressed in both their attitude toward economics and
their grassroots, anti-establishment orientation. These two
characteristics go a long way toward clarifying the patterns of
support and opposition the netroots display toward Democratic
politicians and candidates.
I think this is generally right as well, though totally unremarkable. Having a populist (as opposed to corporatist) economic outlook is pretty much the defining feature of modern liberalism. Pretty much anyone who is even a potential democratic voter subscribes to this ideology. As for Iraq, I'd argue it has less to do with ideology and more to do with a willingness to face reality. To avoid the wrath of the netroots, all you have to do is admit that our current policy in Iraq isn't working and concede that maybe it wasn't such a great idea to invade Iraq in the first place. At this point, most serious people should be able to meet this very modest "litmus test."

Toward the end of the article, Winship raises an important question (though I think he gets the answer wrong):

And here, finally, is where the ideological nature of the netroots
becomes crucial to understand. The netroots generally believe
that down the line, the progressive agenda is fully compatible
with winning presidential elections and achieving and maintaining
a congressional majority. Indeed, many in the netroots doubt that
ideology is important at all, believing that campaign tactics,
messaging, and political discipline and backbone count for much
more than issue positions. Of course, if that were true, there
would be no need to run moderate candidates in red states.
This really is the crux of the debate between the netroots and the DLC types. And I think the netroots has this one right. It's not that positions on issues don't matter at all, it's that they matter far less than conventional wisdom would have us believe. The DLC types are convinced that in order to win, Democrats must stake out the illusive ideological center. As a result, they are engaged in a perpetual quest to find the perfect centrist position all the issues of the day.

But this approach makes a number of dubious assumptions. First, it assumes that people's opinions are generally static, that whatever the "center" is today will more or less be the center tomorrow and the day after that. But as the GOP has demonstrated over and over again, public opinion is highly dynamic and volatile. There are any number of ways to turn a fringe position into a mainstream one in a very short period of time.

The second dubious assumption the DLCers make is that people actually have coherent ideological views. They generally don't. Most people hold an idiosyncratic collection of views, some conservative, some liberal, some neither. Swing voters are not a homogeneous group. In other words, they don't swing because they are in the "center". They swing because of their perceptions about the character of the candidates or because one particular issue suddenly became more important to them than others.

The Republicans don't win by endorsing a platform of positions each designed to appeal to a majority of people. Any number of planks on the Republican platform are extreme and would never garner majority support on their own. But through selective emphasis, focus on character, and general framing of issues, the Republicans still manage to win. And they've done so without ever trying to move to the center.

What Republicans long ago realized is that voters don't vote for a platform. They often vote for a person. Sometimes they vote for a single issue. But generally, they have little understanding of the parties' platforms and aren't all that interested in policy. Republicans understand this and try their hardest to turn elections into referendums on someone's character or on a single hot button issue.

Meanwhile, Democratic strategists spend all their time tweaking the party's platform, trying to make every position perfectly moderate. The fact is, there is more than enough red meat in the progressive agenda to sell to America. So rather than trying to jettison any position that isn't approved of by over 50% of the country, Democrats need to spend a lot more time on the art of politics, on framing and selective emphasis. They need to spend less time studying Republican positions and more time studying Republican strategy.

This, in a nutshell, is what the "netroots" is trying to accomplish. It really isn't about ideology.
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16 Comments:

thegris said...

Great post, I think you've summed it up nicely.

I want to point out that another thing I think the netroots stands for is for a strong *opposition* to the Republicans.

This is usually framed as a way to help win elections, and the lack of opposition is a result of the DLC types who are so careful to say anything "controversial" that would hurt their positioning.

1:30 AM  
Anonymous said...

What you forget, Al, is that the last two presidential elections, including a sizeable portion of congressional elections, have been stolen by the Republican social engineers thanks to Diebold, Sequoia, etc. Let's not forget that in the equation.

2:45 AM  
Undeniable Liberal said...

IMHO, the entire political spectrum has shifted significantly to the right in recent years. So today's center is yesterday's right(think Reagan) and today's right is.....uuuuugggghhhhhh. Progressive liberal values DO appeal to America's middle class, but the message is almost always muddled, by dems, and wildly distorted by Repukes. And for gawds sake, Liberal is NOT a bad word!

8:51 AM  
Anonymous said...

Agree with all comments above. I would also add that while netroots-favored candidates sometimes seem to be all over the board in terms of general issues, the one thing they tend to have in common is the willingness to listen to constituents. We want the individual voter to once again take precedence, not the corporate donor or lobbyist. We want to be fairly represented by our representatives.

10:27 AM  
steeplebob said...

AL said: "The Republicans don't win by endorsing a platform of positions each designed to appeal to a majority of people."

While I believe the Republican party has changed significantly over the last twelve years, this is exactly what I understood the Contract With America to be.

4:41 PM  
Politically Lost said...

I would agree with your post on most points and would add: That framing issues and setting the narratives that the media uses is of paramount importance.

Much of the hatred generated in the right blogosphere and neocon pundit class comes from the netroots ability to demonstrate easily and quickly when they are lying. They know that if the trend continues the narrative at the national level will no longer be their sole playground. If that does occurr, and this is their biggest fear, they won't be able to set narratives.

Attacking displays of mendacity, though needed on a daily basis, has to give way to a leadership role. And, this is where I think you are very correct. We need individuals that voters are actually interested in voting for, not some plank on the party platform.

Jack Murtha should be the DNC's national spokesperson on Iraq. The country is ready to get the hell out of there and is ready to unite behind a credible leader. All that needs to be done is have the party unite behind someone like Murtha on this issue.

Well, there's my two cents.

11:29 PM  
Christopher C. in Hawaii said...

Intially I think the Democrats do need to study Republican strategy just to get elected, which is largely a simple coherant message that is repeated ad nauseum throughout the entire party structure. Preferably this would not be an attack message against someone's character but about the results of the policies they pursue. They do however need to learn how to quickly deflate Republican attacks.

After that I and many others want to see a complete change in the way politicians are elected to office and how Congress and the Presidency operate. The MONEY has got to come out of the election process and the law making process!

I have put an idea called the Election Channel and Election.org out into the universe on numerous occasions to shorten election cycles, force politicians to address issues as a form of application for employment and take the fund raising out of the system to a large degree.

I don't have to have a candidate that I agree with %100. I want a candidate who speaks plainly and tells the truth about where they stand on issues. We are all tired of the spin or as you have said looking for the perfect Centrist position with the Madison Avenue style researched choice of words to use to get the right response.

Make a choice, speak plainly, tell the truth. This republic won't last much longer when politicians and language are constantly twisting to gather funds for the next election cycle.

12:08 AM  
liberal journal man said...

undeniable liberal is spot on about how the spectrum has moved to the right. I've written about it over and over again on my blog.

Nice nose by the way...

12:24 PM  
Anonymous said...

As a McGovern supporter in 1972 (canvassed for his campaign...in Flint, Michigan...I still have the scars, but no regrets) I object to having been right at the time being turned into an insult by a person like Brooks, who, so far as I can see, lacks any intellectual or political gravitas, and wouldn't recognize a real insight if it bit him where he couldn't see it without a mirror.

I have a modem, too. Several, actually, but that does not make me an "ite" of any kind.

While I'm ranting, let me say that, as a mathematician, speaking of a political "center" in the space of American voters is not only not logical, it's frankly delusional. Think back to all the major political movements you've ever seen or read about. The successful ones have seeds around which a political plurality, occasionally a majority, coalesce, producing enough voting power through which a party can govern - for a while. I don't even understand what people are talking about when they refer to a "spectrum" -- except in the most generalized (and hence useless) sense, the space of American political thought bears no resemblance to anything that would be recognizable as a spectrum. It's not even clear to me that this abstraction is useful as a metaphor, except on single issues.

Since there is more than one issue involved in the problematic status quo today (I think there are dozens), it's not useful to speak of a "center". And trying to find a "center" and occupying it is worse than useless, as putting the cart before the horse. I would suggest that it's more useful to find some defensible positions, occupy them, and try to pull the voting public toward them. This is what Ned Lamont has done in Connecticut, and it appears to be working.

If the positions chosen aren't defensible, then the public will not gravitate toward them. If, upon election, the execution of the plan fails because of ineptitude, then the public will gravitate away from the party. If the plan succeeds, but the results are bad, then ditto.

In short, I'm advocating a strategy of choosing an agenda that is good for the country, then convincing the country to vote for it, then actually implementing it as efficiently as possible. I know this is politically radical. Remember, I'm a McGovernite. This year is a year when this methodology would work, since the GOP has been found to suck so badly that it's created an effective vacuum. There's a Senate race in this state where the GOP candidate is running ads in which there is no mention of ... the GOP. What does that tell you?

Contrast that with the "conservative" methodology, as implemented by Rove. This "McGovernite" never believed that the "compassionate conservatives" were compassionate. It was apparent long ago that the avowed goals of the "conservatives" (including the "compassionate" kind) were not in the interests of a majority of the voting public. The GOP pursued an election strategy of not telling the voters what they really intended to do, using code words to speak to their base instead. Does anyone actually believe that Shrub truly believes in any of the measures they have carried out, except cutting taxes for his buddies? They used fear and intimidation to blunt criticism and outright lies to smear their opponents.

The result is that we're where we are today, almost friendless in an increasingly dangerous world, with out-of-control allies (what are we going to do, repudiate the few friends we still have?), paralyzed in domestic politics because anything that will please the base of the party in power is opposed by 70 percent of the public.

A shell game can only be run so long. If the current Democratic leadership (there's a laugh) wants to play shell games, they'll end up just like the GOP. And probably in less time, as, frankly, they don't have the ruthlessness and brainless followers in quantity to match the GOP.

There. Now I feel better.

4:04 PM  
Anonymous said...

Looks like you got the memo from kos - but it still didn't earn you a prominent spot on the faux "adverties liberally" circle of links.

Maybe you need to post more distractions and psuedo-analysis - anything from actually discussing real liberal issues.

Why don't you take the cue from fdl and greenwald - more mindless chatter and verbage and less real content. You could create an illusion of expertise by posting on the same topic over and over again - you know, like fdl did with fitzmas and like greenwald did with arlen sphincter.

Don't worry about being right - one the rest of the gang starts linking to the bogus analysis, you will be considered the "expert" on that subject regardless of the quality, accuracy, or reality orientation of the posts.

7:45 AM  
AltHippo said...

"Looks like you got the memo from kos..."

Townhousegate was so last month. It's time to move on to calling liberal bloggers "nutroots". Didn't you get the memo from Michelle Malkin?

Speaking of which, I notice that Marshall Wittman has moved on from his lighter rhetoric of "McGovernites with modems." Here's his latest:

"Even if Democrats gain control over one or both chambers this fall, the White House will be unattainable in '08 if the left alienates the vital center. Only hawks win Presidential elections. Unfortunately, even some of the best in the party either haven't figured this out, are nutroots collaborationists or have declared neutrality."

To which I ask: are you now or have you ever been a nutroots collaborationist?

1:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

AltHippo

The "KOS MEMO" reference is just snark leading to the larger point - a small group with little or no expertise or specialty knowledge have created the illusion that they represent liberals by creating a circle jerk of links.

There may or may not be a "memo" or email - that is not the point. They function by endlessly linking to a set of "approved blogs" as if this small set of perspectives somehow has the overwhelming consensus of the online liberal community.

They actually ban any number of important issues and refuse to acknowledge that liberal traditions and progressive issues used to center around peace, equity, and socio-economic issues.

REAL liberal understand that war is actually the result of a government conducting an economic assault on its own working class and poor citizens. The purpose is to enrich the military-industrial complex and the wealthy elite that own it. In the process they also deny important government funds for legitimate social and economic needs.

The faux "advertise liberal" circle of links NEVER addresses any of these issues and actively discourages/bans/flames them.

You can deny the "memo" but you cannot deny the objective fact that the so-called liberal blogs DO NOT COVER THE LIBERAL ISSUES THAT DEFINED THE MOVEMENT!

5:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

One of the main tools in hijacking the proud tradition of liberal and progressive politics is the manufactured "expertise" when americablog links to atrios, who links to c&l, who links to fdl, who links to KOS, who links to greenwald...

In reality, outside of the endless and repetitious links, no one of those sites actually stands for anything liberal at all.

This is how the MSM creates pundits too. Its just another version of the "mighty wurlitzer", but the tune is the same.

5:18 PM  
AltHippo said...

Apologies, anonymous. I got lost in the snark. You make a good point regarding the Advertising Liberally circle.

There's nothing preventing any of us from starting a Blog Ads network. That's not a bad idea, IMO. Perhaps AL would be interested in something along those lines.

Regarding Unclaimed Territory and FDL, however, I'd say that there's a body of expertise there that I value, as well as consistently good writing. I wouldn't lump them into the same category.

6:39 PM  
Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

Your article is first-rate, and I agree with many, not all, of the commenters -- especially about the Diebold machines. (It does no good to argue that elections in the past were stolen. Whether they were or not -- and I think some were -- we can't change them or invalidate the actions of the beneficiaries of the thefts. What we can and must do is make sure it doesn't happen again.)

But you fail to emphasize enough -- and sadly, the Democratic party keeps missing -- one of the primary tactics of the Rpublicans. They turn the election into a referendum on the opponent. They start out be making the opponent the key issue in the election, and they usually act so fast that they make it impossible for the Democrat to respond by challenging the Republican's character, consistency, or positions.
They call this 'dirty politics' or use it as further examples of the
Democrat's 'untrustworthiness' or 'lack of character,' or complain about mud-slinging. They don't care if they turn people off or away from voting, since the people who are affected by this are more likely to vote for the Democrat.
(I should state that this above all is why I oppose Hilary's nomination. She is the one person who can unite the Republicans and bring them to the polls to vote against her.)

There are two important signs of hope out there. I think Democras are slowly 'getting it' realizing that their positions do represent the majority in most areas -- on social questions in particular, the religious conservative position might be noisier, but the progressive position is more popular -- and would be even more attractive if so many Democrats would favor it boldly instead of acting ashamed of it and trying to fudge and hedge.
The second ray of hope is that, if the Republicans do lose control of both Houses in this election, or even of one, they may start an orgy of infighting that could lead to a Goldwater-style debacle. Already, I am hearing statements from every form of Conservatism that the reason Bush is so unpopular is that he isn't conservative ENOUGH (in the writer's particular brand of conservatism).
But the key to Bush's strength has been his ability to keep the strains together (with the aid of Rovian politics). In fact, there is no natural affinity between the neo-cons, the religious/social conservatives. the small government types, the pro-business and 'be kind to the poor rich folk' types, etc. Someone who is a 'true conservative' in one of these senses is likely to drive a large proportion of the other types away.

(One final question. Given the fragmentation in both parties, what are the odds that, for the first time in half a century, the conventions will be really meaningful, that one or both parties will NOT have a winner already chosen by the time they start.)

11:34 AM  
Anonymous said...

Hey Jim, get a clue, okay? If the issue of election fraud is not addressed, it doesn't matter about all the deck chair aligning a party or groups within a party, do.

Got that? I wonder if you were drunk when you did your post. You apparently didn't or wont get the salient point of my post.

I'll say it again: If election fraud is not addressed, and for the most part it isn't, then election year posturing by the party and its parts are for naught. There was outright election fraud in 2000. What was the Democrat's reaction to this? Denial of election fraud and moving farther to the political right. There was even more election fraud in 2004. The Democrat's response to this? More denial. See a pattern there, Jim? Hello, Jim? Anyone home?

8:06 PM  

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