The '08 Election and the Housing Bubble
But there's another potential X factor in the '08 election that has so far received almost no attention: the housing market. Take a look at this graph from Sunday's New York Times (h/t Atrios).

The graph, which was put together by Yale economist Robert Shiller, shows just how inflated current housing prices are by historical standards. A growing chorus of economists is predicting that the floor may be about to fall out from under the housing market. The bubble appears to have already popped in many regions; sales have slowed to a trickle and the market is clogged with unsold inventory. The other day Paul Krugman has this to say:
[W]ith prices falling in many areas, the speculative demand for
houses has gone into reverse, as people try to get out with a
profit while they still can. There's now a rapidly growing
glut of unsold houses. This is a recipe for a major bust, not
a soft landing.
Moreover, it could be both a deep and a prolonged bust. Since
2000, much of the nation has experienced a rise in home
prices comparable to the boom in Southern California during
the late 1980s. After that bubble popped, Los Angeles house
prices began a slow, grinding deflation, eventually falling
20 percent (34 percent after adjusting for inflation). Prices
didn't begin a sustained recovery until 1996, more than six
years after the downturn began.
Now imagine the same thing happening across a large part of
the United States. It's an ugly picture, and not just for
people and companies in the construction business. Many
homeowners -- especially those who bought their houses with
interest-only loans or with minimal down payments -- will
find themselves in financial distress. And the economy as
a whole will take a hit.
A collapse of the housing market might well send the U.S. economy into recession, perhaps a prolonged one. And unlike the bursting of the tech-stock bubble, which disproportionately affected the upper middle class and rich, the bursting of the housing bubble would be a body blow to the middle class. For most families, their house is not only their home, it is their chief asset and investment. And a great many people in recent years have paid their bills by borrowing against the rising value of their homes.
If the housing market collapses, all bets are off politically. Many people will be hurting and desperate and angry, and the economy will instantly become issue #1 in all political races, no matter what is happening in Iraq or the war on terror. Politicians who don't adapt quickly to this new playing field will be left in the dust.
Because the Bush administration has been in power for the last six years, it will--whether fairly or not--bear the lion's share of the blame for the crisis, and this will put Republican candidates in a difficult position. After all, Republicans have been touting the wonders of the Bush economy for many years now. Finding a coherent way to explain to people just what the hell happened may prove to be a formidable challenge to even the most skilled Republican politicians.
Such a development might provide a unique opportunity, however, for someone like John Edwards, who has made fighting poverty his signature issue. Edward's brand of economic populism might be just what a weary electorate is looking for come '08. And more emphasis on economic (as opposed to foreign policy) issues could only help Edwards, particularly in a race against someone like McCain.
The bursting of market bubbles and the resulting economic fallout are notoriously difficult to predict. It's entirely possible that the slowdown of the housing market will have only a moderate impact on the rest of the economy, or that the real impact will be felt only after the '08 election. But there's a very real possibility that between now and November 2008, the housing market will head South and take the rest of the economy with it. And if that should happen, the '08 political calculus will change dramatically, and perhaps in unforeseen ways. Candidates on both sides would be wise to start giving this contingency some thought.



19 Comments:
One of the many falsehoods that REALLY burns the undeniable liberal's pale skinny ass is the flat-ass lie that the economy is strong. It's the funny math that Bush uses. The upper one or two percent of Americans are seeing gains like never before, and the rest of us are becoming more and more worse off as time goes by. But when you average everything out, EVERYBODY is doing better. Bull-fucking-shit. The cost of everything is going up, and for a large majority of us, wages have been stagnant for quite some time. People are taking out home equity loans at a record rate just to stay ahead, but the cows are coming home.
Yes in-frickin-deed, the economy is roaring, and whats totally amazing is that the Cheney menstruation actually claims loudly and proudly that as a fact, while the majority of us are feeling pain. The fact that they are bragging about the economy rather that running and hiding from it shows you what they think of idiot America.
If Al Gore doesn't run I'm voting for Edwards. At least he see the crux of the problem.
As was pointed out over at TAPPED, why there has been little to no media attention to the current economy's woes (a huge, concrete mansion atop a foundation of balsa wood) is that economic reports focus on the MEAN income, and not the MEDIAN income. Productivity is up, but wages are not.
Seems that all of the Republicans' moves over the past few years, which I have likened to a child (the Bush Administration), who has his arm elbow-deep in the cookie jar (our economy and capital), and is handing the cookies out to a steady stream of friends behind his back, are coming home to roost. People are catching on to the economic, political, and military manipulation by these un-Americans, and while that's great, it may be too late. Many, many people are going to suffer, as A.L. relates.
If indeed the GOP puts their political campaign eggs into the fallback national security issue and we see 3rd quarter reports of a strong decline in housing market, the shit will truly start to hit the fan for November. Normally, housing sales in August/Sept are strong as families relocate before schools start, so if those sales close historically low & the market values tank, the real ground level national security will hit mainstream America. Dems better be ready with solid plans for turning this around.
A.L. --
I've decided to be 100% for Al Gore. What do you think about him? He seems to me the only legitimate, full-grown candidate -- the only one with the "gravitas" to even take a swing at the total, unbelievable mess the Cheney administration has made of the country and the world.
- JLB
Im with JLB on this. I think the country is going to welcome Al Gore home with open arms when he announces that he's "been convinced he has to run".
It's going to be a nitemare for McCain and any "security hawk" republican.
-Brandon M.
I like Al Gore as much as the next guy, but he has one unforgivable sin- he's bad on television. I would say he has loosened up since 2000, but that's a relative measure. He was on the Daily Show promoting his movie a few months ago, and he was only slightly less wooden than he was during his POTUS run. I can't think of a person more prepared to be President, but in this media age, that is not enough. Case in point - our lovely Governor Schwarzenegger. His political experience entirely consisted of him thinking about running for office, and being Chairman for the President's Council on Physical Fitness.
In a climate where political opponents are "swift boated", I don't think Gore will get angry enough, mean enough to meet that challenge head on. We need some good old-fashioned righteous indigation, something that Paul Hackett and Russ Feingold can dish out.
Edwards understands justice, whether it be on social issues or the war in the Middle East. Global poverty does cause a lot of our ills in the world. It's no wonder there are so many suicide bombers in ME; they have little or no hope because they are poor. It's no wonder that we have so many undocumented workers; their countries failed them economically.
I'm consistently amazed how I read that he has little experience. Let me count the ways:
--Common man: worked to put himself through school, both in undergrad and grad
--Understanding of the legal system, via school and clerking, working for other firms
--Judicious Entrpreneur, starting another firm with another person, winning cases for people who had no one else to turn to for terrible things that happened to them medically, and willing to take on companies, insurance companies (associated with doctors who were incompetent)
--Senator for 6 years
--Director, Center for Poverty, Work, & Opportunity, and now published scholar
--Invited speaker to India, Israel, UAE, Britain, Brussels, and soon, Africa and China--and has met with many of the state leaders in each country; also met Angela Merkel of Germany concerning foreign direct investment issues
--Co-Leader, TF on Russian-US Relations, with Jack Kemp, with the Council on Foreign Relations
--Investment advisor
--Effective campaigner to help raise $7M for other candidates
--Social responsibility entrepreneur, starting Opportunity Rocks, whereby providing housing and food for college students go to Gulf Coast for their alternative spring break, and help clean up the messes the FEDS didn't do; also Savings Society, co-partnered with Jack Kemp, which encourages companies to start automatic 401K plans for employees,even at retail levels
--Effective spokesperson for SEIU, Unite Here, ACORN
I'm ready for a positive change, and someone with moral backbone, courage, empathy, and energy to tackle these very, very serious problems. That man is John R. Edwards.
I'm impressed, the Edwards campaign already has its agents (benny06) posting on liberal websites in preparation for 08.
Curious as to benny06's point that global poverty fuels middle east terrorism. Can't really see how it fueled millionaire OBL, or Zarqarwi, or the suicide bombers recently caught in Britain, or the British train bombers, or the Spanish train bombers, or the shoe bomber, or JW Lindh.
I'm all for eliminating poverty at home and abroad, but let's not think that a domestic poverty fighting program is a substitute for a foreign policy.
Also re: Edwards, you all should read the stories about him as a litigator, when he made closing arguments where he channelled the spirts of the alleged deceased victims. That always really impressed me. If we can elect a bona fide medium president, I say we should. He can draw on the wisdom of Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, etc. when confronting our nation's problems.
If we can elect a bona fide medium president, I say we should.
If that's the goal, we should elect John Edward (not John Edwards) president.
As to JLB's question, I agree. Al Gore would probably be my top choice if I could magically choose who the next president would be. That said, I'm not yet convinced he's the strongest general election candidate the Dems have to offer. On paper, he should be. He's incredibly smart, highly-qualified, and he's been right about almost everything important over the last decade. But, for whatever reason, he still doesn't poll very well. And despite the positive media coverage he's received lately, he's still hated by the media. They savaged him in 2000, and they might well do so again in 2008, particularly if he were to run against a media darling like John McCain. I think someone like John Edwards or Mark Warner might have a better chance. But if Gore really wants this, he might be able to do it. I'd certainly have no problem casting my ballot for him.
Problem with Gore. Is there ANY bit of evidence to suggest that he would be any bit more likely to win a state like Arkansas or Tennessee this time compared to 2000. People focus on Florida, but if Gore had won either his or Clinton's home state, he not GWB would have been president.
Gore has moved further to the left since 2000, and in 2000 it was noted that his lefty populist compaign themes didn't help one bit. I find it hard to believe that Gore steal away any red states from the GOP. On that score someone like Harold Ford Jr. or Mark Warner is way more likely to be successful.
Gore has moved further to the left since 2000, and in 2000 it was noted that his lefty populist compaign themes didn't help one bit. I find it hard to believe that Gore steal away any red states from the GOP. On that score someone like Harold Ford Jr. or Mark Warner is way more likely to be successful.
Ford's got to win his Senate seat first, which is an uphill battle. I doubt he would jump immediately into presidential politics after that. I tend to agree about Warner, though. He does seem more likely to be able to pick up a Southern state.
That said, I don't think the Democrats should plan their whole electoral strategy around trying to pick up Southern states. I think that represents outdated thinking. The fact is, you don't need to pick up Southern states to win. Kerry would have won if he had managed to pick up a few thousand more votes in Ohio, and he didn't win a single Southern state (including Florida). Gore probably did win (had all the votes been counted) and he too didn't pick up a single Southern state.
Look at it this way, the last two presidential elections were essentially electoral college draws. But no one is suggesting that the GOP should be trying to find a candidate that appeals to deep-blue Northeasern or Western states. So why should the Democrats be focused on finding someone who appeals in deep-red Southern states? What they need is just a solid candidate who can pick up enough of the swing states to win.
The thinking may be outdated (it was last employed in 1996), but it is a hell of a lot more successful than our more modern GOre-Kerry thinking. I don't understand the non-southern strategy. To win, you must run the table everywhere else, and at the end of the day, the most you can hope for is a 52% victory. The dems should be shooting for that transformative 58% or 60% victory that allows them to reset policy across the board with a substantial mandate. Why employ a strategy that at best only allows you to squeak by as the winner? Clinton had southern appeal and he won twice. Carter and LBJ and JFK had southern appeal and they each won. Dukakis, McGovern, Gore, and Kerry had no southern appeal and they all came up short. A southern focused strategy may be outdated, but lately winning is also an "outdated" concept amongst dem presidential candidates lately. Its easy to see why.
Hard to beat a Gore/Feingold ticket. Strong, savvy, 2 of the brightest bulbs on the block. Gore's Inconvenient Truth has given him a path to bring global factions together, it also allows him to bring this country together on a national agenda that is proactive. I really don't give a damn about the perception that he's wooden on tv, I'm still trying to survive this current president that everyone says is so great to have a beer with.
Clinton had southern appeal and he won twice. Carter and LBJ and JFK had southern appeal and they each won.
Anonymous, I'd encourage you to read this post by Tom Stoller at TAPPED. The fact is, the voting patterns in the South have changed dramatically over the last few decades. The South is officially over its Civil War-induced fued with the Republican party, which is the only reason Democrats ever did well down there. Clinton didn't do nearly as well in the South as people seem to believe. And the trend that was well under way in the 1990s has continued apace. As things stand, Democratic polticians have about as much chance of winning the Deep South states as GOP candidates do of winning states like New York and Massachusetts.
You can't tailor your strategy around picking up those states. If Dems happen to have a candidate with unusual cross-over appeal, then by all means, let's aim for a super majority, but that's not going to be a realistic option in most election cycles.
The South represents the base of the current Republican party, and the GOP political machine is a force to be reckoned with. Only in a severe mismatch and a particularly favorable political climate is a Democratic candidate going to have much of chance at picking up Southern states. It's no longer 1964 or 1976 or even 1996.
I meant to say Tom Schaller at TAPPED.
I'd just like to add another issue to the problem with the economy. Health care. I have two college graduates. One has insurance through work, the other has insurance because I pay for it. Many, many of their friends have no insurance. This is a catastrophy waiting to happen. In fact one of my son's friends was hospitalized. Walked away with a $50000 bill for an appendix removal.
Look at the housing market. Who buys? Young married couples and couples with small children. Who can afford it? Not many young married couples and couples with small children.
Our country is destroying the customer base it depends on. It's destroying its own market.
Jeanne
First, thank you whoever for acknowledging my post, even if Edwards is not your cup of tea--yet. :-)
I'm fond of Al Gore. He is a true patriot of this country. His speech at Constitutional Hall on MLK, Jr day was fabulous. It was reminiscent of what our founding fathers would have said about the last King George and taxation without representation (broadly).
He has done some heroic things, such as Katrina rescues last year by hiring two jets and bringing folks who were trapped down in NOLA back to hospitals in Knoxville.
But to chime in with some others here, VP Gore was not able to connect with the average voter, and certainly, after being a VP for 8 years, he was not connected or visible with his former constituents in TN. So the blogger who said he didn't need Florida to win is correct.
Regarding my comment about the correlation between poverty and suicide bombers, I offer two things. One, is to watch the movie Syrianna if you have not yet. It's based on former CIA operative experiences in the ME and when you see how the camps for training suicide bombers is caused mainly by a lack of hope and money needed by families, not to mention the brainwashing of those Muslims (twisting the teaching of the Koran), you can see how OBL was a powerful force. The suicide bombers--some came from good families--some supplied with lots of cash by Al Queida (sp).
The second thing I will offer is Edwards' words when he spoke at the London School of Economics last year.
"I don't think that we have even begun to understand its consequences.We also have not fully grasped the changes that come from the spread of information technologies.
Thanks to new technology and the power of knowledge the world will keep shrinking. But globalization also brings tremendous challenges. For example, how
do we ensure that the great divide between the "haves" and the "have nots"
starts to close? How do we lead so that developing countries understand that
education, market reforms, and just governments will bring hope to even the most
desperate places?
And in our world of such wealth and promise, we cannot forget another great challenge: extreme poverty.Close to half the world's population—more than 3 billion people live on less than $2.00 a day. How do we address this unthinkable human suffering? How do we win the hearts and minds of young people—the millions struggling in Africa, or those young orphans from the tsunami? How do we reach them so they know they can climb out of hopelessness and into a better life?
The time has come for all of us to fight global poverty.We must also summon the creativity and will to address the storm that's gathering to threaten our collective security – the threat from the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.This threat is not new. North Korea has nuclear ambitions. Iran wants its own weapon.And so do terrorists. Imagine if one of these terrible weapons was used in Washington or here in London.These gathering threats will not face single countries or regions, but all of us.
We must ask ourselves: Are we doing enough to eliminate this threat? Unfortunately, I think the answer is no. And today, many ask whether America and Europe can continue to work together to ensure the broader spread of democracy. The only answer to that question must be yes.This is the moment when we must strengthen our partnership to ensure that in the 21st century, the world moves toward liberty and opportunity.
It is time to make a simple promise to our children: that we will work together to build a world that welcomes them in 2020 and beyond. That we will have a secure world in which they can thrive. And through education, democracy, and development, they will have the tools to do so.Working together, free nations must help build a world that says no to vengeance and hatred and genocide. A world that makes learning and education a necessity and a right like air and water and food. A world that no longer races toward weapons of mass destruction. A world where young people no longer feel so disillusioned that they strap on a bomb to their body to kill innocent people. And a world where tyranny falls and democracy rises.I believe that, together, we can achieve these goals."
A couple of you probably have looked on my blog and saw that I support Edwards vision of One America. I am unabashed it about it. But my reason, beyond the list above, has to do with someone who fights with mind and heart. Someone who wishes to connect with a regular person. On June 27th, I was given an opportunity to get an audience with him when he was on his way somewhere else--to Las Vegas, then on to Seattle. I was able to connect with him about my mom, who was left almost with nothing when my father died, and she has to still struggle. Luckily, she had a few things break her way, but I have to help her out each month because technically, she still lives from social security check to another and doesn't have money for extra circumstances. Edwards was very empathic in listening to my story. His communication style is simple, but it works. And he reaches out to more than just the educated. Gore appeals to the educated but not to the regular guy on the street who wants to know how his son will get out Iraq or how he has to figure out a very convoluted prescription bill system that is so confusing and asinine to boot--and that Edwards voted against in 2004, while Kerry and Lieberman ducked the vote.
Edwards also said he was wrong on his vote for giving Bush the authority to use force as necessary, and he was misled, as many in Congress were at the time.
As far as his trial lawyer skills, I'd pick him in a heartbeat if my child had been injured because of some incompetent doctor, or because a company wouldn't fix their product problems; moreover, I want someone in there who truly understands the law, not just some guy like Bush who unfortunately, did not learn a thing from Harvard Business School.
I had not seen "An Inconvient Truth" before, but now I've seen it, and I can only re-inforce my Gore-ism at this point. He is the man. I think we should vote for him.
-JLB
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